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  1. kwoww is offline
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    It says 1959 on the blade.
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    No, it doesn't. It says 1939.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtripp View Post
    OK... I suspect the sheath is not the orginal, but the dagger looks ok...
    Image 3 shows what looks like damage to the blade. Is the any damage? Can you get clearer images and bigger? Has it ever been disassembled?

    A suggestion is to not clean or polish it at this time to avoid scratches or damage to the blade or other parts. May be talk to a PROFESSIONAL restorer.

    Were you able to get any background on the knife, the officer and or how Großvater Tripp acquired it. Paper or pics with a cool capture story is priceless.

    In God we trust, all others require document verification.
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    I have no clue. Grandpa is long dead; Father only knows he had it. There were never any papers. I know next to nothing about it. I think it is tarnished but there is no damage that I can see or know of.

    For all I know he could have won it in a poker game, or stole it from a pawn shop, I simply do not know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtripp View Post
    For all I know he could have won it in a poker game, or stole it from a pawn shop, I simply do not know.
    Provenance just adds $ on top of the regular "retail". Don't sweat it.
    For additional info, see if you public library has the book, WW2 German Daggers, Vol 1 Reference Book by Tom Johnson. or check Barnes & Nobles or some other book seller.

    Remember don't do anything to clean the blade or add edge to it. Make sure what it is and if possible have it professionally appraised and get it in writing signed by the appraiser. It costs less than you think and may add significant value. Also, avoid excessive handling if possible. Fingerprints will etch onto blades and other metal surfaces. See if having it professionally cleaned/touched up/restored will add value.

    To beat the horse a suggestion is that until you verify what you have, don't do anything to it or sell it.
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    That looks like a Luftwaffe dagger. If it is, the "nazi propaganda" moniker is moot as Luftwaffe officers were not allowed to be party members. however, most above-the-board WWII antiques collectors are historians, not skinheads. If you can find a few, you'll likely never have to worry about dealing with any Aryan whack jobs. I'll see if I can find anything on my side. On a side note, Luftwaffe daggers I've seen have sold for 500-1000 dollars at an antique mall, but my observations are dated as I haven't seen any up close for almost 10 years.

    I'll emphasize what has been said before:

    Don't alter, polish, sharpen, etc. the weapon in any way shape or form. The value will go right out the window if you do.

    War antiquities collectors will know where the resources are to be found that can have the weapon properly appraised.

    Fakes DO abound, ranging from obviously fake to "that's not real? You're kidding me!" I have personally seen two SS daggers side-by-side, one fake, on real, that I couldn't tell apart. Hence, get it appraised. Until you do so, it's all guesswork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinKungPao View Post
    ...Luftwaffe officers were not allowed to be party members...
    Am I the only one who is surprised by this statement?

    CLICK & WATCH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonuzaba View Post
    Am I the only one who is surprised by this statement?
    That's what I've read quite a few times. Surpised me as well. If you know something I don't, feel free to correct me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinKungPao View Post
    That's what I've read quite a few times. Surpised me as well. If you know something I don't, feel free to correct me.
    I'm not trying to derail a personal advice-seeking thread, but could you link to any sources for this? I didn't read anything to the contrary either, it would just strike me as highly improbable for a major part of the Reich's military machinery to be forced out of party-membership in a one party system...

    Can't seem to find reason behind such a policy, starting with the fact that Goring, the chief of Luftwaffe was a NSDAP member from 1922...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonuzaba View Post
    Can't seem to find reason behind such a policy, starting with the fact that Goring, the chief of Luftwaffe was a NSDAP member from 1922...

    http://www.feldgrau.com/luft.html
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