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  1. Tom Kagan is offline
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    Dark Overlord of the Bullshido Underworld

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    Posted On:
    7/07/2009 3:17pm

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     Style: Taai Si Ji Kung Fu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Ving Tsun View Post
    He trained under Tsims in Long Beach, CA
    Who?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ving Tsun View Post
    I have seen other Ving Tsun schools that teach a "watered down" version of the art, basically 2 year sash factories which I avoided.
    How do you know? What basis did you have to come to this conclusion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ving Tsun View Post
    I know the Ving Tsun I'm getting is REAL!
    HOW DO YOU KNOW?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ving Tsun View Post
    If you trained under Moy Yat then I know your training was real.
    We've never met. HOW DO YOU KNOW?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ving Tsun View Post
    I was expecting a lot of MMA fighters to come out and trash a wonderful art because it was created by a female.
    Re: "because it was created by a female": Really?

    Don't you think fighters would be more bothered by an art which hasn't produced a significant elite level champion in more than half a century?
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

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  2. Ving Tsun is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/07/2009 8:06pm

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     Style: Wing Chun

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    My Sifu trained for 32 years under Richard Tsims. You wont find Richard Tsims or Michael Sampson in any Ving Tsun archive. Tsims is under his Chinese name and Sampson's school has only been open for a little over 2 years. From what I understand as a student, a Sifu in Ving Tsun has to have a operating school for 5 years to be a recognized Ving Tsun school.

    The other schools That I have seen teaching a watered down version of Ving Tsun are schools that mix Ving Tsun with other styles. These are schools with a couple hundred students that test every 4 months. There are no other Ving Tsun schools in Savannah, GA, but there are plenty in Atlanta, GA and in Florida that I know about and have researched.

    My Sifu has always talked about Moy Yat and how great of a teacher he was. Sifu Sampson meets with a few of Moy Yat's former students (who are Sifu's them selves) and touches hands with them once a month.

    Take care!
  3. Kintanon is offline
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    Yes, I am smarter than you are.

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    Posted On:
    7/07/2009 8:32pm

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     Style: TKD, BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    So you will you be coming to the next GA throwdown to show us what real whatever-it-is-you-do is?
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