7/03/2009 12:08am, #11
Thanks for fixing the ratings. I really respect that. I still disagree with striking as 10 (that means high-level full-contact competition success, frequent hard-contact sparring, etc), but good on you for revising.What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates
7/03/2009 1:04am, #12
Closer, but not there yet. As I implied, unless there is a golden gloves champ, K1 competitor, or other high-level striker proven by competition teaching that part of the curriculum, it is not a 10.
7/03/2009 1:19am, #13
I especially like the passive-aggressive use of "God bless!"
7/04/2009 2:57pm, #14Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.
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7/04/2009 7:51pm, #15
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Again, Ving Tsun is NOT about competition and the schools curriculum should not include how to win a competition match 101. Ving Tsun teaches self defense for REAL LIFE situations.
Tom, I should not have to answer to you. I know that you are not the forum administrator, but from what I gather you were once a Ving Tsun practitioner. I don't know why you are so offended by my ratings, but that's your personal problem not mine. I do consider myself passive-aggressive which is the way we ALL should try to be. If you live life tense and stressed you will wear your body out. Remember soft always overcomes hard, so don't be a hard!
7/04/2009 11:14pm, #16
Competition is the best benchmark, bar none, for measuring success/applicability. Street fight data does not exist. But, this is a red herring argument and will simply lead to another chun argument.
The point is, your review does not adhere to the guidelines for reviews on this site, and you did not revise it according to the rules. Read the sticky.
7/04/2009 11:28pm, #17
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I can explain my rating of 10 for striking instruction. My definition for striking instruction is the accuracy of the strike and the amount of damage done to an attacker. Such as striking a pressure point or sensitive area along the meridian. I will level the playing field a bit by dropping the ratings on strikes, but I still believe that the striking instruction is first class at the kwoon.
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7/05/2009 4:27am, #18
Nobody is interested in your personal conception of the scale. The scale is provided in the sticky thread at the top of this forum:
Ratings and You - Read This Before Posting Your Review - No BS Martial Arts
Here is the scale for striking:
1-3: No striking.
4-5: Striking for punching/kicking only and/or limited purposes (demonstration, highly restrictive sport).
6-7: Comprehensive striking (all ranges) or superior single range striking with success in local/regional competition or practical application.
8-9: Pressure-tested, full range striking and proven success in limited restriction, top level competitions or high level self defense situations.
10: Superior excellence including A-level competitors/instructors
Your striking sounds like a four or a five from your own description, not a ten.
Like most simpletons, you're simply experiencing significant cognitive dissonance. Of course what you're doing is great! You're doing it! So everything gets tens tens tens.
I never bothered ranking my school, but as I am a grown adult, here is what I would rank my school given the scales provided by this site. Note that I do not suffer from cognitive dissonance.
Aliveness: 6 (a bunch of freestyle tuishou and some striking—I walk home bruised, we've had a few people get their ribs moved around and such)
Equipment: 1 (we use no equipment)
Gym: 5 (we really do train in a park)
Instructor ratio: 8 (20th gen Chen disciple teaching a class of four to six and sharing closed-door material)
Atmosphere: 9 (peace, love and chin-na, man)
Striking: 5 (ldrilling dirty boxing style stuff, we throw some live while pushing and try not to elbow one another in the face since we have no fucking equipment)
Grappling: 5 (san tui, baby)
Weapons: 1 (the teacher has a spear to shake but we never bother with it because we train in a fucking park, man)
Gee, I guess I don't go to the most awesome school in the world. Boo-hoo for me. Whatever will I do! Well, here's what I won't do. I won't start a big stupid annoying thread in a forum full of big stupid annoying threads that are all about the same thing: every dipshit in every stripmall in America is running a veritable Shaw Bros. movie worth of exotic super-advanced live training two nights a week, between ballet classes and yoga. Amazing, innit?
So, offer up some real scores already.
7/05/2009 9:33am, #19I can explain my rating of 10 for striking instruction. My definition for striking instruction is the accuracy of the strike and the amount of damage done to an attacker. Such as striking a pressure point or sensitive area along the meridian. I will level the playing field a bit by dropping the ratings on strikes, but I still believe that the striking instruction is first class at the kwoon.
If you don't like this COMMUNITIES RULES, as you already mentioned, don't try to freely advertise your school.
Oh, accuracy changes tremendously under pressure.
Alright, It's obvious that I we have gotten off on the wrong foot! I now realize that this site is based on "competition style" and street fighting.
Your school doesn't fight in competition nor does your school street fight?
This makes zero sense.
Before you go into a tirade, Self Defense is a no rule fight.....in the street.....that is a street fight.
Fix your ratings.
Tom, I should not have to answer to you. I know that you are not the forum administrator, but from what I gather you were once a Ving Tsun practitioner.
7/05/2009 9:41am, #20
From all the amendments he is making to his review, it is apparent that he does not have the real ving tsun. Noob.Let your anger be like a monkey trapped inside a pinata; waiting inside, hoping that the children don't break through with the stick.
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