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  1. Mtripp is offline
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    Choked out by Gene Lebell

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    It depends on where I am.

    For sport, tounge choking is likely the best idea. In the real world I prefer the CVR as it goes on quick, and with the shake and bake move, takes the fight out of them even if they get the chin down. If they do get the chin down, you transition to the LeBell moves we covered this past weekend to cause them to tap, or lift their head.

    Finally I think either version is open to getting the chin down. If I have time, I like the full choke as I can get a compression better. Withthe CVR I use a lebell three finger grip.
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    Quick question: What does CVR stand for?
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    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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    Cardio Vascular Restriction? Just a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeFan View Post
    Quick question: What does CVR stand for?

    Cardio [edit: Carotid. I was wrong] Vascular Restraint, I believe.

    Interesting aside, You'll hear Coach Tripp talk about the Japanese way, or the way they do it in the Tokyo Police Department.

    I'm not sure if he elaborated on this yet, but as he explained and taught it to me, for restraint purposes, the choke is done as follows:

    Apply pressure, whilst shaking the head, for 2-5 seconds. This disorientates the target enough to facilitate the use of handcuffs and other restraints.

    My memory may have failed me, so don't hold this as gospel.
    Last edited by 3moose1; 6/26/2009 4:49pm at .

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    Choked out by Gene Lebell

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    Carotid Vascular Restraint
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