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  1. Kintanon is offline
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    Yes, I am smarter than you are.

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    Except that tournament doesn't exist. According to the Judo schools in the area there was no Judo tournament in Belleville.
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    Matt, is this true?

    Please be honest. It's becoming really difficult to maintain faith in your honesty at this point.

    If you lied about something, just admit it. Forgiveness is available, but in order for people to forgive, they need to know that there's something to forgive in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danniboi07 View Post
    My reading of Kanji sucks, but Katakana is easy as all heck. Yes, the name Neil Olenkamp is present in the Japanese text. I posted the image in my first post. Please click it for a closer viewing.

    No BS Martial Arts - View Single Post - Deconstructing Matthew Morton's Kodokan Diploma
    I also can read katakana and will confirm. It says Ni-ru O-ren-kam-pu.
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    I can also confirm that the second column from the left states that it was given on the 51st year of Showa (1976) on 4/20. I minored in Japanese, so I am not fluent but I can get around some kanji.


    Info on the Japanese year system:
    http://www.meijigakuin.ac.jp/~watson/ref/mtsh.html
  5. Coach Josh is offline
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    Wife confirmed the findings. It is Neil Olencamps (sp) certificate with a date in 1976. Wife is 100% Japanese from Tokyo.

    Now if Matt presented this certificate to the NGBs and used it to confirm his rank was from the Kodokan then all of his rank may not be legit. It is pretty stupid too considering all you have to do is pay like $170 bucks to have your rank confirmed by the Kodokan.

    The NGB will just confirm rank if given a valid certificate. So this may be something to consider. I think that Neil should be made aware of this forgery. I am going to post a link to this on the judoforum.com and see what they have to say.
    Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.
  6. Lu Tze is offline

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    I would be pretty shocked if it were that easy, it seems the certificate is quite a blatant forgery if you know what to look for.

    Btw I just checked your post over at judoforum, and can't see the link back to here, did you forget to stick it in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1point2 View Post
    Status update. Thanks DarkPhoenix for the pics.

    Validated, but unknown how attained:


    Suspected of forgery, but not definitive either way:


    Not investigated:


    Proven to be fraudulent; technically it is unknown who forged it:


    Proven to be fraudulent; technically it is unknown who forged it:


    No tournament of this name known:
    The USJA card, as well as the Kodokan membership card, are obvious fakes. First, there are no references to the AFJA on any USJA documents now days. Also, while my Kodokan membership "card" is very old relative to the age of most here, it doesn't look like any I have seen of recent vintage -- say, just a few months ago. The Kodokan license certificate Japanese does not indicate the guys name! Advice to thus guy: start with ukemi, then Ogoshi and so on, under proper supervision :icon_eek:
  8. Lu Tze is offline

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    USJA have been contacted, they confirmed his rank with them.

    It's whether that genuine rank was obtained through fraudulent means that is the question now.
  9. Matt Phillips is offline
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    This document is very likely a fabrication. There is absolutely zero noise beyond that caused by the anti-aliasing around the text and clip art. The rest of the document is pure white, except for a small anomoly in the lower right quadrant that appears to be left behind from an earlier move of the clip art.

    Again this is very likely a fake.
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