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  1. Lu Tze is offline

    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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    Do the statistics differentiate between an armbar from guard, and one from mount? I'm guessing not, which is a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze View Post
    which is a shame.
    Well hey, don't go jump up now and do it yourself or anything. Noooo.
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    BJJ might make you a better ground fighter, but Judo will make you a better dancer.

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    Do what exactly? They're not his statistics, he got them from wikipedia, sherdog etc. I'm just asking if they differentiate, because I've never noticed if they do.
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     New York MMA Examiner Style: magic FUCKING powers!

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    Would it be okay if I used this in an article at some point? I don't know if the readership is always rivetted but I think it's interesting stuff.
  5. Holy Moment is online now
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    I'm just curious, Tycho: Would you categorize a "chin to the eye" as a legit submission, or is it in the same boat as Tank Abbott's neck crank?
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    Chin to eye is odd, because at the time it was legal, and now it isn't. I think it's easier to just go through fights that were won by techniques that are legal throughout MMA's history.
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     Style: ti da shuai na

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    Quote Originally Posted by [Tycho?] View Post
    Beat you to it, its linked to in the OP.
    Oops. I'm not sure how I missed that. Here's a prettier rendering of submission frequency by year for the modern period:



    I factored out submissions that only occurred once in the data, most of which are probably re-classifiable as something else. There's a bigger version going back to '93 here.
    “Most people do not do, but take refuge in theory and talk, thinking that they will become good in this way” -- Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, II.4
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    Jack, what program did you use to make that chart?
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    I'd like to repeat that question: what program did you use to make that chart?

    In all honesty I don't like that chart a ton but it obviously is from a great program and I've not seen one like it from SigmaPlot, Able or most of the programs I'm familiar with. Certainly couldn't make it with MATLAB, R or any drop and click stats program.

    Actually... it could be R you can do anything with that.
  10. Jack Rusher is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    Jack, what program did you use to make that chart?
    Some software I built for work based on this paper by Lee Byron. As far as I am aware there is no commercial or open source package that natively produces this style of visualization.
    “Most people do not do, but take refuge in theory and talk, thinking that they will become good in this way” -- Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, II.4
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