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  1. Matthius100 is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/23/2004 5:39pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    what's so speedy about a speed jump rope?
  2. Nid is offline

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    1/23/2004 5:51pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    They use plyometrics.
  3. Matthius100 is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/23/2004 6:03pm


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    what?
  4. Dochter is offline

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    1/23/2004 6:08pm

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    Originally posted by keinhaar
    By running and swimming, respectively.

    Why? Because despite convention calling both of those activities "aerobic" neither one does jack-**** for the other. Nor will jump roping have any bearing on one's trainable factors which are applicable to that for which you're training. You will, however, become an excellent jump roper.
    Anecdotal: When in competitive swimming shape I certainly was able to run farther, faster and longer than when not.

    There may not be a complete transferance (it would be silly to think there was) but there certainly is some.
  5. Nid is offline

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    1/23/2004 6:44pm

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    The main point is that the changes which do transfer from activity to activity take place at a common level. That being the muscles which drive the movement. *Compared* to being relatively sedentary, the leg muscle development incurred from the swim season (which includes lifting I presume), would certainly transfer to running. Just as the leg development from track season (and the lifting) might help the kicks in swimming. It's certainly not your heart which changed, nor your lungs, nor your diaphragm, nor your red blood cell count...it's the skeletal muscles. And there is a very simple (albeit boring and unromantic) method of improving them for any undertaking. The rest is activity specific.

    Jump rope is specific to nothing; and is an inefficient way to make the other kind of changes.
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  6. Dochter is offline

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    1/23/2004 7:07pm

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    No lifting during swimming and it was the fact that I wasn't getting winded that I was refering to. Certainly you're benifiting from common level changes but the level of specificity you seem to be impling to be neccessary is in my opinion disingenuous.

    blah
  7. Nid is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/23/2004 7:13pm

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    I wouldn't say disingenuous. Densley superlative yes.

    Fine. Same thing.

    I'm taking that position to counter the free-for-all of what seems to "work" (which is basically anything as long as someone says so).
  8. Dochter is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    ...along the lines of any strength schedule works for new/weaker people.
  9. MadeOfOlives is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/03/2004 9:21pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    In terms of jumping rope being an activity that is specific to nothing... if as previously mentioned it helps with the development of coordination and footwork, then it does get pretty specific, doesn't it?

    Or, as is often the case, I might be missing the point.
  10. Goku is offline

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    2/03/2004 10:22pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Leather speed rope, and to those saying skipping ISN'T a workout...you've obviously never used one AS a workout (or you're jumping rope like little girls do and singing a song).
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