233240 Bullies, 3683 online  
  • Register
Our Sponsors:

Results 11 to 20 of 40
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 12 34 LastLast
Sponsored Links Spacer Image
  1. Torakaka is offline
    Torakaka's Avatar

    Do you eat breakfast?

    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Kaka village
    Posts
    10,658

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 11:51am

    supporting member
     Style: Kitty Pow Pow!!!

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I really like my little bullpup, but I can see a lot of reasons to pick an AR-15 over the bullpups I'm familiar with. Off the top of my head, magazine reloading is clumsier and significantly slower (though this gun has a button on the side for magazine release which makes for a quicker reload than the original Styr AUG), and it's not as versatile in it's configurations since other than changing what's on the rail what you see is what you get.

    The gun is cool as hell though and the fact that it's such a tiny rifle with a 16" barrel is the bomb.
    Ranked #9 internationally at 118lbs by WIKBA http://www.womenkickboxing.com/wikba...rch%202009.htm
  2. Rock Ape is offline
    Rock Ape's Avatar

    Watch and Shoot !

    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    10,134

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 11:55am

    staff
     

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    One look at a bullpup should immediately convince a miltary procurer the superiority of the design concept.
    I wouldn't say the design is superior than a forward magazine well based rifle, its just different. The only major design plus factor in a pullpup over a conventional system is the ability to shorten the weapon's overall length without compromising accuracy over distances up to 500m. (depending on the quality of the ammunition and skill of the marksman of course)

    Also, whilst I'm not an authority on the subject; the rifles I've fired using the bullpup design can only be fired from one shoulder (which-ever that was designed for) whereas, it is generally possible to fire conventional magazine well based weapons from both.

    Dave
    "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".

    ~Ella Wheeler
  3. Cy Q. Faunce is offline
    Cy Q. Faunce's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    3,577

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 12:16pm

    Join us... or die
     Style: Finding You

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I think heavy trigger pulls may be inherent to bullpup designs with mechanical actuation. The linkage between the trigger and the action is very long. Electronic actuation is one answer, but it has other problems.

    I'll be interested to hear if the trigger can at least be made crisp. I'll take heavy but crisp over light but creepy.
  4. Phrost is offline
    Phrost's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jun 1998
    Location
    Cow Town
    Posts
    19,125

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 12:25pm

    Business Class Supporting Memberstaff
     Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    There's also the small issue of the repeated small explosions that take place much closer to your face.
  5. attakmint is offline

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    West LA/SF Bay Area
    Posts
    187

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 12:28pm


     Style: mozambique drill

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan View Post
    One look at a bullpup should immediately convince a miltary procurer the superiority of the design concept. With specimens like this one and the FN2000 available, why the hell modern miltaries still use the venerable M-16/M-4 is beyond me.
    Oddly enough, it seems a lot of elite western military units us the M4 or C8
  6. Cy Q. Faunce is offline
    Cy Q. Faunce's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    3,577

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 1:03pm

    Join us... or die
     Style: Finding You

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost View Post
    There's also the small issue of the repeated small explosions that take place much closer to your face.
    I don't love that, but I have dealt before. If I have justified confidence in the rifle's design, I am not too worried whether it is a bullpup or not. If I don't, I am worried either way.

    I find it hard to overcome a bad trigger pull.
  7. Rock Ape is offline
    Rock Ape's Avatar

    Watch and Shoot !

    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    10,134

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 1:13pm

    staff
     

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by attakmint View Post
    Oddly enough, it seems a lot of elite western military units us the M4 or C8
    Because the volume of availability and relative low cost has much to do with that, rather than anything else.

    Oh and let's not forget politics, policy also effects who buys and uses what.
    "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".

    ~Ella Wheeler
  8. Cy Q. Faunce is offline
    Cy Q. Faunce's Avatar

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Minneapolis, MN
    Posts
    3,577

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 1:15pm

    Join us... or die
     Style: Finding You

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Mohamed Jihad View Post
    Because the volume of availability and relative low cost has much to do with that, rather than anything else.
    There is that. Industrialized armies don't want it perfect; they want it good enough, in quantities of a million, delivered by Tuesday.

    As I've remarked before in another thread, that theory wins wars.
  9. Torakaka is offline
    Torakaka's Avatar

    Do you eat breakfast?

    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Kaka village
    Posts
    10,658

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 1:24pm

    supporting member
     Style: Kitty Pow Pow!!!

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    My rifle was a bit over $2k, so not the cheapest rifle by any means.

    I'm planning on installing a Trigger Tamer at some point, which is supposed to reduce the trigger pull by about 1/3rd and make it significantly more pleasant to shoot. I'll report in after I give it a go.
    Ranked #9 internationally at 118lbs by WIKBA http://www.womenkickboxing.com/wikba...rch%202009.htm
  10. BadUglyMagic is offline
    BadUglyMagic's Avatar

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    393

    Posted On:
    6/08/2009 1:27pm


     Style: slackerjitsu

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by KidSpatula View Post
    My gun has no sights as of yet. I'm planning on putting some Magpul back up sights on the gun so I can have something to aim with right away, then throw some sort of optic on it once I decide which one I want. So far I've been considering an Aimpoint Micro, Trijicon Reflex, Trijicon RMR... maybe a couple others.
    If you want to borrow it until you get another optic, I have a red dot sight that will mount on the rail (I believe). I can drop it off at your gym or wherever.

    Edit: Mounts on standard 5/8'' dovetail rail.
    Last edited by BadUglyMagic; 6/08/2009 1:39pm at .
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 12 34 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Powered by vBulletin™© contact@vbulletin.com vBulletin Solutions, Inc. 2011 All rights reserved.