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  1. revtruhrt is offline

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    6/04/2009 1:10pm


     Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu/MT

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    Training with shoulder pain

    Hey Bullshido friends,

    Last September, I developed some really awful tendonitis in my right shoulder. Like a fool, I kept doing Muay Thai for another month. It finally got so bad that I could barely open a door with my right hand.

    The doctor recommended I stay away from the "repetitive motion" of kickboxing and gave me a cortisone injection. I felt better almost immediately. Since my brother had injured his shoulder pretty badly in Western boxing, I figured I would switch to something else.

    So I started Brazilian Jiu Jitsu last November. I usually train 2-3 times a week for 2 hours a clip. And it has been fine up until recently.

    But now that same pain.

    Doc says I have no actual tears, since I was fine in the strength test. But I definitely don't feel right when I'm lifting. And rolling was excruciating. So recommended not doing any sort of upper body training for a while.

    So I'm out of commission for the next month, at least.

    Has anyone encountered something like this? The pain isn't in the joint, it's in the muscle on the back of my shoulder. Could this come from an imbalance in the muscles?

    Thanks.
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    I know it’s painfully obvious, but it has to be said: Make sure you talk to a good physiotherapist and/or a doctor who specialises in sports medicine, not just your GP. Make sure you ask specific questions.
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    6/04/2009 2:14pm

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    I actually had that exact same pain that ended up being linked to some issues in my neck. My chiropractor fixed it for me, but seeing a massage therapist, a physical therapist, anything like that should be able to fix it up for you.
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    6/04/2009 2:27pm


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    Do see a good PT. IMO, any doctor who will tell you to "stay away from X" and give you a shot w/o PT is negligent.
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    I was going t start my own thread, but then I decided to piggy back off of this one as its similiar.

    On Friday during rolling, a guy got me in what I think was a kimura. We were in standing position, locked up, he got my arm and rolled on his back. No time to tap... my shoulder made two popping sounds, and now it hurts a lot. Even light grocery bags are painful to carry. I'm icing it, but no progress yet. I have full motion of my arm, but it hurts a bit.

    Of course I'll go to a doc if it doesn't go away, but anyone familiar with this injury? Would it be dangerous for me to roll without healing time?
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    I'm not sure how old you are but it could be just getting older does this to people. I'm 38 and just train through it within reason. Fish oil or omega 3 fatty acids, along with bi-monthly massages and good hydration have helped me stay competitive a little longer.

    Also not every training session needs to be a hardcore "training for the championship" of the world session. I've started to do that every other session instead...with technique based sessions in-between and it has helped.

    Good luck!!
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    fix the shoulder

    i had the same thing about 8 months ago, went to the physio and they said it was fine but i knew it wasnt.
    if your doctor and physio cant find a regime or something to fix it then what i did was:
    didnt train in ma for a month and avoided exercises in my workout that invloved the shoulder, then i started this exercise with only a dunbell,lying bent raises. lie face down on a bench and keep your arm almost straight and dont bring the bar past paralell to the floor,gradually build up the weight.
    this coupled with light calisthenics and stretching should do the trick, it did for me.
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    Posted On:
    6/17/2009 2:25pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Meson View Post
    Do see a good PT. IMO, any doctor who will tell you to "stay away from X" and give you a shot w/o PT is negligent.
    Agree. Anything muscle or joint related I'm usually going to my sports doctor (AKA Orthopaedic Suregon) not a GP. The GP will sometimes do that (Shot and stop doing X) without trying to correct an issue via PT or even attempt to look further into the problem via an MRI or X-Ray.
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    Posted On:
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    @OP:
    If you have medical. . .go to an orthopedic surgeon.
    Or, get your doctor to send you to Physical Therapy.

    The ortho-surg will try to find 1) the problem, and 2) a solution.
    A Phys-therapist will identify your safe range of motion, and then
    your goals, and make a plan to get you there.

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    I've been having shoulder pain for about three week, although I'm not sure how I got it. I've been training pretty hard recently (for me), and couldn't tell if I got it boxing, running, from Crossfit's crazy pull-up regime, or even from sanding my deck with a rotary sander.

    I also thought it was tendinitis and was resting it until yesterday when I finally went to a sports PT place and had an evaluation. Turns out I have aggravated two of the vertebrae in my neck, and the chances are it's not sport related at all, but the result of poor posture at my laptop (and there was me thinking that the internet only gave you wrist injuries).

    Get it checked out properly - it may not be what you think it is.

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