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    Quote Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra View Post
    I'd kinda like to see the same tests reproduced with some bladed weapons.
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    YouTube - Vital Clip Two "7 Vital Truths of Edged Weapons"

    YouTube - The Edged Weapon Threat
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    Actually, I've seen lots and lots of those tests on meat; I meant taking a heavy blade to a coconut.

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    Coconuts are cut open many many times every day for food with light blades like machetes. Is this really in question?
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    Coconuts are cut open many many times every day for food with light blades like machetes. Is this really in question?
    Back when I lived in Toronto, I always liked the guys at the Caribana Festival popping the top off a coconut with a machete, sticking a straw in it and handing it to you, with no winding up, or psyching up - just chop.

    Figured that skill would hold up just fine in a fight - cut the top of your skull off, stick a straw in it, and leave the corpse for the police to puzzle over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Pepper View Post
    Back when I lived in Toronto, I always liked the guys at the Caribana Festival popping the top off a coconut with a machete, sticking a straw in it and handing it to you, with no winding up, or psyching up - just chop.

    Figured that skill would hold up just fine in a fight - cut the top of your skull off, stick a straw in it, and leave the corpse for the police to puzzle over.
    Gives Head Hunting a whole new meaning, huh?
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
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    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
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    1st video of the asian guy was interesting. Could a credit card relly do damage to a person like that? I think he used his left arm for all the cuts he made. Isn't that uncommon for FMA? I'm a lefty but I still do the majority of my stickwork with the right. I still practice wiht left some but my right still feels more comfortable.

    2nd video the (white)guy stated he made a "martial blade craft" video or something like that that teaches "responsible, ethical, and legally defensable" blade use (i think) anyone seen this? I carry a knife everywhere. I've read a lot about legally using a weapon but i'm always down to learn more on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jspeedy View Post
    1st video of the asian guy was interesting. Could a credit card relly do damage to a person like that? I think he used his left arm for all the cuts he made. Isn't that uncommon for FMA? I'm a lefty but I still do the majority of my stickwork with the right. I still practice wiht left some but my right still feels more comfortable.

    2nd video the (white)guy stated he made a "martial blade craft" video or something like that that teaches "responsible, ethical, and legally defensable" blade use (i think) anyone seen this? I carry a knife everywhere. I've read a lot about legally using a weapon but i'm always down to learn more on the subject.
    Blade ALWAYS = Lethal Weapon. You must follow the rules for the use of lethal force.

    Two sources for reading on the subject:
    http://www.corneredcat.com/Legal/AOJ.aspx
    http://www.spw-duf.info/force.html

    In order to justify your use of deadly force (blade, gun, or otherwise) require making the following list happy:
    - the attacker must have the ABILITY to kill you or cause you great bodily harm.
    - the attacker must have an OPPORTUNITY to use such ability against you or another innocent (yes, you can use lethal force in the defense of another, depending on where you live the laws differ. Look it up for your state)
    - the attacker must be currently putting your/a life in JEOPARDY.
    - a last note that isn't often covered: YOU MUST HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RECOURSE IN YOUR USE OF DEADLY FORCE (i.e. you cannot retreat or flee from the source of danger for a very compelling reason, such as: you have young children with you who cannot move as fast; you're acting in defense of someone who can't flee or defend themselves from life-threatening assault; or you're cornered with no egress available.)
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    Coconuts are cut open many many times every day for food with light blades like machetes. Is this really in question?
    I was imagining something smaller than a machete. Perhaps "heavy blade" wasn't the best phrase to use- I'm just curious about a bowie or combat knife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra View Post
    I was imagining something smaller than a machete. Perhaps "heavy blade" wasn't the best phrase to use- I'm just curious about a bowie or combat knife.
    There's no doubt in my mind that my CS TrailMaster Bowie or CS Gurka Kukri would just wreck a coconut.
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
    ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra View Post
    Actually, I've seen lots and lots of those tests on meat; I meant taking a heavy blade to a coconut.
    Well, I've found this one...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORmi9b-_0Ms

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