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  1. milwaukee cop is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    my take on what makes an effective system

    first off, has to use "gross motor skills", meanining no fancy skills, the techniques have to be able to be used in a high stress enviroment, ( more on this point later). second , must cover all ranges of combat to factor in changing tactics and enviroments( no, duh!). third, must train in realistic scenarios, and have a realistic expectataion of weapons and multiple opponents.(more on this point later). ill go into further detail on the above, but id like a little feedback, and a got a pretty good story to go with it:)
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    does anyone disagree with the above?
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    Why would anyone? I think you'd have first have to tell how you are going to do those things ;)..
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     Style: I do UFC

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    haha
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Also Samuel Browning own3d this topic a month ago.

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...&threadid=7982
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     Style: Wu Style TCC + BJJ

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    Can you provide us with examples of some systems that utilize only gross motor skills, and some examples of those that don't?
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    gross -motor skill = natural movement, many techniques i have been exposed to in ma or d.a.a.t. require to many fine movements. the best way to evaluate if your techniques are groos motor skill based, is have a training partner suit up in a redman suit and seriously beat the dog piss out of you. you will find out really quick that you got maybe one or two longe range shots, then a clinch, using headbutt,knees, and elbows, then to ground control( i know.i know, "no **** sherlock!")
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    muay thai, boxing and wrestling judo,bjj. tend to use gross motor skills, wing chun, traditional karate/tkd does not( my opinion, only)
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    this isnt about making a new system, but more of evaluating if a system can realisticaly addree an officers needs in the real world. sorry for any spelling errors
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    yes,edge but would u call traditional karate blocks a gross motor skill?
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