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  1. vile_zoidberg is offline

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    That's quite a bit of experience.

    The only further advice I have is to gauge your students as you go, and constantly check yourself so that you are challenging them and forcing them to progress, while making it easy enough for them to want to come back.

    Besides, ass-kickery in the begining is a good thing, and it lets them know that you mean business, just don't completely break them.

    Keep it painfully simple until you feel they're ready.



    Also, what is "FWIW?"
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    don't worry you will do fine:D
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    Sparta, are you sitting down?
    if not, sit down.
    make yourself a cup of tea, relax and then read this advice.
    do you have a cup of tea?
    no?
    go make it, its okay, i'll wait.
    ......
    .....
    ......

    Ah, there you are!
    So, do i have your attention now?
    Whats that?
    You're going to have a cookie aswell?
    Sure, i'll wait some more, no problem.
    ....
    ....
    ....
    okay.
    You listening?
    Good.

    DON'T TEACH NOOBS AT A PARK FULL OF DOGSHIT, WTF ARE YOU THINKING?!
    YOUR FRIENDS ARE MORONS FOR ASKING YOU THAT.
    LEARN ABOUT THE BASICS OF WARM UPS.
    DONT DO IT.
    NO.
    JUST NO.

    okay, now just enjoy your tea, let this sink in and hopefully you'll realise that the whole idea is kind of goofy to say the least.
    have a nice day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebell View Post
    DON'T TEACH NOOBS AT A PARK FULL OF DOGSHIT, WTF ARE YOU THINKING?!
    YOUR FRIENDS ARE MORONS FOR ASKING YOU THAT.
    LEARN ABOUT THE BASICS OF WARM UPS.
    DONT DO IT.
    NO.
    JUST NO.
    Well that was creatively rendered, I must say.

    So Sparta, you've already got a bunch of people telling you not to do this for various reasons. I'm going to add another that's got nothing to do with lambasting you for taking the job to begin with.

    It's more like a caution, really. Teaching people is really hard work. Teaching fat people who haven't seemed to get up the motivation to get themselves to a gym, or a martial arts school on their own and are asking a friend for a favor are usually lacking in the self-discipline department.

    What they're doing is trying to change themselves while preserving their current comfort zone. They're still under the impression that change can happen without discomfort. So they're training in the park with a "friend." It's not real for them yet, they're not taking this seriously.

    Do yourself a favor, if you're really hell bent on doing this don't commit to anything more than a week. Because dragging these guys through this process by the collar is going to be, well, a drag. Watch.

    As for my qualifications, I taught and helped run a school for five years. I taught children and adults 6 days a week around my normal work schedule. If you have willing students, this is a great experience. If you have to spend all your time cajoling and encouraging, you're going to exhaust yourself unless you believe very deeply in what you're doing or are getting paid.

    Now, since they're a bunch of tubs at the moment, instead of MA, I'd reccomend a kind of boot-camp style work-out. Get them in shape. Worry about the martial arts after that.
    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible, without surrender,
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even to the dull and ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.
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    Posted On:
    5/30/2009 8:56am

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    what JP said.
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    Meh. For as long as Sparta isn't charging money for it and he isn't claiming to be an ultrabadass cagewarrior, I really don't see what the problem is. I teach some guys very basic BJJ at an irregular basis while emphasising that they really need to go to a proper gym if they want to get good.
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    Sparta - I'm also a bit skeptic here, but I also know that you being in a European setting will make it easier for you to train outdoors and without being sued. So good luck.

    If I were you, I would start with very basic boxing (after a good warm-up). Simply because it hurts enough to do. It will show you how motivated they really are. Sure, grappling hurts even more, but total noobs can destroy themselves (or each other) doing that. So - hurt is good. Injuries are bad.

    Don't let them goof around just because they might be friends. If you are going to train them make sure they at least are commited.

    Good luck.

    (Will you come to the TD in Belgium in October, btw?)
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    grappling hurts more then boxing?!
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    40 min of running? Why? If anything, close class with extended conditioning, opening with it will lead to sloppy technique.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebell View Post
    grappling hurts more then boxing?!
    Nope. They hurt equally bad, when done right. It's just that boxing hurt without the same risks of injuries to noobs, imho. Again - this is just based on my experience.

    EDIT: just to clarify the whole "What hurts more..." thingy - I'd gladly take a punch to the face or a ribshot rather than an armbar or hysterically performed choke attempt.
    Last edited by Mackan; 5/30/2009 1:45pm at .
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