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    I don't agree Royce's early dominace was technical. people simply didn't know what a triangle choke was or how to defend it.

    Machida's dominamce is Strategic, people know what he's doing but can't adjust quicker than he adjusts.

    Yes he can and probably one day will be beat but I don't think it's an issue of "Figuring him out" in the sence of BJJ where people learned the counters to the guard but rather out strategicaly fighting him

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    Cro-Cop at LHW vs. Machida; he's got the tools to end the hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost View Post
    Cro-Cop at LHW vs. Machida; he's got the tools to end the hype.
    Cro Cop plays chess with a handgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieux Normand View Post
    On the hyperbole front (from "Elusive-Elusive-Elusive" to "His Era Is Upon Us") one can wonder what happens when--as happens to all fighters--Machida finally gets defeated. Will the hyperbolists suddenly do a 180 and scream "The Era Is Over!"...even though his ledger will still have a sizeable number on the 'win' side, while the loss column will read '1' instead of '0'?

    On a more interesting front, it will be interesting to see how Machida handles the mental challenge of bouncing back from a loss...whenever that first occurs.
    Of course they will. That's how it goes.

    Unless of course, Machida enters the same realm of love and acceptance like Couture and everyone loves him so much, they don't care if he loses, they just want him to have the belt again.

    Which I think he could do, he's quickly approaching that position.

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    Your jerking off about your appreciation of technical excellence in striking is kind of silly when you completely disregard the awesome footwork and countering going on in Edgar/Sherk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost View Post
    Cro-Cop at LHW vs. Machida; he's got the tools to end the hype.
    Oh, absolutely. I mean, Machida's a great striker, but let's face it, he's no Cheik Kongo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirc View Post
    Cro Cop plays chess with a handgun.
    My first thought to this was "nice metaphor", my second was "no, that's probably literal".

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    I'd watch Cro Cop/Machida with definite interest. Cro Cop has holes to work on before he can hope to win that matchup though.

    1. Actually have improved his boxing like he claims
    -Being a one-trick pony didn't work against Overeem, Gonzaga or Kongo, it sure as hell won't work against Machida.

    2. Improve his takedown defense from the clinch
    -Cro Cop can become the striker he used to be in 2004-6, but it won't matter if Machida sumo sweeps him.

    3. Learn to move in more than one direction
    -Circling away and to his left constantly is just going to lead to problems.

    4. Learn to use the Octagon
    -Like mixing up his footwork, he has to figure out how to fight in an area where he can't corner his opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Cephalopod View Post
    Oh, absolutely. I mean, Machida's a great striker, but let's face it, he's no Cheik Kongo.
    Congo's size and reach was substantially greater than Mirko's; it was obvious he needed to be in a lower weight class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Cephalopod View Post
    Your jerking off about your appreciation of technical excellence in striking is kind of silly when you completely disregard the awesome footwork and countering going on in Edgar/Sherk.



    Oh, absolutely. I mean, Machida's a great striker, but let's face it, he's no Cheik Kongo.
    I'm sorry, I don't think I ever said I was one of those 15. You assholes just loooooooooooooooooove to fill in words for me, don't you?

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