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  1. tim_stl is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryno View Post
    Tim_stl, what system were you training in, just out of curiosity?

    Body lean is key in largo mano, as at long range if you retreat too much or step too far away, it will take you out of range for countering. (My intro to fma was Sayas-Lastra Largo Mano). Angling out just far enough to keep you clear of the weapon arc, and a bit of lean to ensure you don't get clipped allows you to quickly lean back in to counter.

    I believe there is even a system called "Elastico" or something similar that uses this elastic retreat and spring back tactic seen in most largo systems.
    i train in garimot arnis. we don't use much lastiko movement, preferring to counter in time, so the emphasis is on footwork and angulation. i haven't yet had the opportunity to see sayas-lastra arnis, unfortunately.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryno View Post
    Body lean is key in largo mano, as at long range if you retreat too much or step too far away, it will take you out of range for countering. (My intro to fma was Sayas-Lastra Largo Mano). Angling out just far enough to keep you clear of the weapon arc, and a bit of lean to ensure you don't get clipped allows you to quickly lean back in to counter.

    I believe there is even a system called "Elastico" or something similar that uses this elastic retreat and spring back tactic seen in most largo systems.
    I used to train with a guy that did a little stickfighting, and he had an impressive ability to lean really far back, but the dramatic backwards lean often left his head leg open to attacks. He never really found a good solution to this.
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     Style: Pekiti, ARMA, other stuff

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    Crossstep as your mass gets to the tipping point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfcritical View Post
    Crossstep as your mass gets to the tipping point?
    This would have worked, but his lean was so overpronounced that this was awkward. He got the leaning thing from some book.
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    Hrm. The closest I can think of is the lean in "wave in/wave out" , and I usually end that with a cross step to ward off a leg shot.
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    I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, or a derail but can someone tell me what "Largo Mano" means/is? Thanks.
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    The range at which you can hit each others hands.
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    HMMmm, Danny Inosanto once said BL improvised some stickwork that looked "Just like Largo Mano". I've always been curious as to what that was. thanks.
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    More specifically, it's long range-- but yes, selfcritical is right, it's a range at which the closest target is the opponent's hand.
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    Yeah, the one thing FMA is missing is a word for he "just outside the bubble " range, where you have to take a step in to make weapon-to-weapon contact, like zufechten in german swordwork.
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