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  1. selfcritical is offline

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    Some Largo Bladework I liked

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZMqb...ch=Bahala%20Na

    Big fan of the quality of the movement, liked the very blade specifc movements to cut into the arm- for those of your who do blade-centered arts, how would you describe your long-range work?
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    I liked the last guy on the video because he had good dynamic footwork that was past the point of stepping into immobile stances, and I think this is a really important ability- to counter on the move, to respond to someone who's attacking on the move, yet still use good power generation.
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    Yeah, I should mention most of what I liked here was from the waist up.
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    good clip. That was from Giron eskrima right? I've read a little about that style I like the knife fighting applications.
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    How does Giron compare to Inayan as far as 'Largo Mana' goes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra View Post
    I liked the last guy on the video because he had good dynamic footwork that was past the point of stepping into immobile stances, and I think this is a really important ability
    just because you're not moving doesn't mean you're immobile. the last guy simply changed his stance more often.



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    Yeah, I've noticed the bahala'na guys tend to use more swaying than footwork. In the early stages of the art you train stationary, right? From the waist up it looks a lot like some of the pekiti wago terrada stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfcritical View Post
    Yeah, I've noticed the bahala'na guys tend to use more swaying than footwork. In the early stages of the art you train stationary, right? From the waist up it looks a lot like some of the pekiti wago terrada stuff.
    i don't train in giron escrima, but i do train in largo mano styles from luzon. we do not train stationary; in fact, footwork is the first thing taught because it is critical to understanding the art. i can't speak to how giron escrima does it. unfortunately i haven't seen any pekiti wago terrada stuff; do you know of any videos where i can see it?



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     Style: FMA, Jujutsu/Judo/SAMBO

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    Tim_stl, what system were you training in, just out of curiosity?

    Body lean is key in largo mano, as at long range if you retreat too much or step too far away, it will take you out of range for countering. (My intro to fma was Sayas-Lastra Largo Mano). Angling out just far enough to keep you clear of the weapon arc, and a bit of lean to ensure you don't get clipped allows you to quickly lean back in to counter.

    I believe there is even a system called "Elastico" or something similar that uses this elastic retreat and spring back tactic seen in most largo systems.
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    My understanding is that Giron escrima makes some assumptions about environment such that quick footwork might not be available, at least as I recall it being described by the guy who was leading the local sayoc study group.
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