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  1. Emevas is offline
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    Here's the $300 cage I'm using

    http://newyorkbarbells.com/92563.html

    Sometimes there's a free shipping deal.
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    You're a scrapper, I like that."-Ronin69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas View Post
    Here's the $300 cage I'm using

    http://newyorkbarbells.com/92563.html

    Sometimes there's a free shipping deal.

    That's a sexy beast. I'll be in the market for one of those, probably by the end of summer.

    Good news though, I did get a free roman chair/ hyper-extension with the lot.
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    I think the "Shirley" Machine has fucked more people up than any other piece of gym equipment.
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    Not to be a nay-sayer, or anything, but a lot of the very large and strong, a few nationally ranked, powerlifters at my gym regularly use a smith machine for assistance work. They certainly don't do their main work on it, but they do squats in them, apparently to work on their depth. There's other work they use them for, but they laugh at anyone trying to bench in them. Though they do some of their overhead pressing on the smith machine too. I don't like the feel myself.

    ( If you want to look them up, I could give names, but I'd like to ask them first... )

    Actually, as solid a piece of machinery that this thing is, I'm probably going to get the attachment for it for free weights and use it as a rack, and for benching. If I was a welder, I'd add a couple more uprights to it and make a cage. Might still try.
    Last edited by Cayvmann; 5/27/2009 8:23pm at .
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    Are you sure they're not using a monolift? I've never, ever heard of a powerlifter using a smith machine to work on depth, mainly because to hit depth, you have to greatly compromise form on a smith machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayvmann View Post
    Not to be a nay-sayer, or anything, but a lot of the very large and strong, a few nationally ranked, powerlifters at my gym regularly use a smith machine for assistance work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas View Post
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    The best (and pretty much only good) use for a Smith machine I've ever heard of is explosive benchpress, which you tend not to do with freeweights for fear of getting your head smashed in by whatever it is you're propelling.

    That said I've seen dudes do super-badass explosive benchpresses with kegs, but I wonder what the risk of destroying yourself is when you get fatigued...
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    You could always just bench against bands or chains as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas View Post
    You could always just bench against bands or chains as well.
    And/or in a power cage with:
    -the barbell suspended from chains out of reach of your body
    -the safety pins set high enough to prevent contact with your body (and face, don't forget the face)
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    Been away a little while, and yes, they do use a smith machine to do some of their squat work in. It's right next to the monolift, as a matter of fact. These guys hit almost every part of the gym at some point or other, and don't seem to think of any machine as verboten.

    Nobody uses the smith machine exclusively, but it seems to be in the powerlifter group's weekly rounds. They go from the cage, to the monolift, to the smith, to the leg press, etc. etc. I was surprised to see them use the smith myself. They also do a lot more volume than I would have suspected, almost as much as the body builders.

    Two names from Clayton Fitness Clayton NC:

    John Pinder
    Kyle Robertson
    You can probably find them in a google search, and probably videos on youtube of some of their workouts.
    Last edited by Cayvmann; 6/01/2009 12:24pm at . Reason: me no spell gud
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