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    Library of Congress: Late 1800's Boxing Videos

    YouTube - Leonard-Cushing Fight

    YouTube - Corbett and Courtney Before the Kinetograph

    1800's "sparring set":
    YouTube - Glenroy Bros., [no. 2]

    And, of course:
    YouTube - The Boxing Cats (Prof. Welton's)

    It's a shame they only allow us to see brief snippets of the full series.
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    Cool spinning backfist at 0.25 in number 3.

    Thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJM View Post
    It's a shame they only allow us to see brief snippets of the full series.
    Based on little google-fu, it looks like these short segments may be all they have. The descriptions with prices must have been the original prices for the reels.



    According to this link for the first video,

    Duration: 0:37 at 30 fps.

    LC copy is apparently just part of one round.
    It is interesting to note the CMA-ish-ness of the third video. What is the cartwheel supposed to do, though?

    Edit: Third video is apparently depicting "Farcical pugilists in costume." A joke?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8bit View Post

    Edit: Third video is apparently depicting "Farcical pugilists in costume." A joke?
    I think they're street performers. The cartwheel served the same purpose as it did in CMA forms: adaptation for street performance.

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    Thank you very much for posting this. Very interesting view.

    I also think that the original clips probably were that short to begin with.

    These clips are from the very very beginning of the moving pictures. Film material was extremely expensive and the lengths available where very limited back then.

    Afaik the first camera-men, with their hand-crank driven cameras, had big problems with film-breaks in the beginning as well, especially if they tried to go for longer takes.

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    Thanks for the good find, NJM.

    Except for the cat video, I f*cking hate useless animal torture, whether it's called "science" or "fun".

    CLICK & WATCH
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    I got BULLSHIDO ON TV!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonuzaba View Post
    Thanks for the good find, NJM.

    Except for the cat video, I f*cking hate useless animal torture, whether it's called "science" or "fun".
    I agree, except if its fun, its not useless. :-)

    I mead look how we torture this poor bunny for our amusements

    :pancakebu

    Good posts, thank you.

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    The first two clips are re-enactments of famous fights; Edison brought the original fighters in to his prototype studio and they did a bit of mock-sparring for the camera. The point was more to experiment with how well cameras could record fast movement than to demonstrate the boxers' techniques.

    The Glenroy Brothers were vaudeville artists and their comedy boxing act was basically a parody of professional prize fighting.

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    Thanks for the additional info, DdIR.

    CLICK & WATCH
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    Very interesting thread. Thanks for the vids and info.

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