Where is the proof that 'Bone Conditioning' isn't BS?

[MAMAs_Boy]

I've used the makiwara a bit.

I can't really say if it increases your bone density as Wolff's Law claims. I do have some theories as to why it was originally used though.

It makes sense to me that the Okinawan karate guys would want to find something to punch besides air. I mean, what does punching air really tell you about hitting a person? If you combine that with the possibility that there were still some people walking around with armor on when the art of "Te" was developed, it was possibly devised as a way to protect themselves from harm if they happened to hit someone in a breastplate.

I won't lie about my initial reasons for hitting a makiwara. I was young when I first started Shorin-ryu. I thought the calloused knuckles were cool.

After I started training in Muay Thai, I realized that I have very sensitive shin bones. For me, makiwara, and bone conditioning in general, was primarily to help reduce the sensitivity of elbowing a person in the face, or blocking a round kick with my leg.

It makes me wonder if the real argument should be whether or not "bone conditioning" helps reduce pain in combat.

[Matt Phillips]

It makes me wonder if the real argument should be whether or not "bone conditioning" helps reduce pain in combat.

That's not a very interesting question, since it is demonstrably true.

[ysc87]

I got reminded of this thread by a cracked article I read- does cobbler's femur (a bone condition caused by constant, repeated blows to one part of the femur) add anything to this argument?

[sempaiman]

Quote:
Originally Posted by War Wheel
Since bone growth/mineralization is at its peak while the bone is still growing, it is impossible for there to be any discrepancies to detect. Every healthy 17 year old girl is experiencing bone growth.


Yeah, on most dates with 17 year old boys...

[73h r341 h3x]

whilst admitting i haven't read this whole thread, im gonna say that repeated stress that is imposed on joints and bones will result in an increase in bone density and 'deadens the nerves'- the second result is probably what you'll hear about most- the lack of sensitivity in the body can be mistook for strength. ie: that gross youtube video of that muai thai guy fucking up his leg during a fight lol

[73h r341 h3x]

whilst admitting i haven't read this whole thread, im gonna say that repeated stress that is imposed on joints and bones will result in an increase in bone density and 'deadens the nerves'- the second result is probably what you'll hear about most- the lack of sensitivity in the body can be mistook for strength. ie: that gross youtube video of that muai thai guy fucking up his leg during a fight lol

just thought i'd impart my immense wealth of knowledge and wisdom :toothy10::new_blueg

[nospacesallowed]

If it is true that bone density is increased in "iron palm/breaking/kicking trees" and it is true that increased bone density means a lower likelihood of breaking ones hand when punching a hard object like someone's face then it is conceivably useful when fighting without gloves on. As far as hitting harder, I don't know, but am doubtful.

[73h r341 h3x]

If it is true that bone density is increased in "iron palm/breaking/kicking trees" and it is true that increased bone density means a lower likelihood of breaking ones hand when punching a hard object like someone's face then it is conceivably useful when fighting without gloves on. As far as hitting harder, I don't know, but am doubtful.

i think that if you do the conditioning stuff you can definetly hit harder cos you dont feel as much pain either, and cos you're used to the impact- a tree is alot harder than a face! lol personally i wouldnt do it cos you lose sensitivity in your hands and can get severe arthritis, you wont be much good if all you can do is fighting :)

[GAMBLER]

the victoria's secret catalog increases my bone density 10X

[Sam Browning]

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