Where is the proof that 'Bone Conditioning' isn't BS?

**Mor Sao** · Posted On: 5/20/2009 8:28pm

Originally Posted by Hedgehogey

Statements like this going unchallenged are one of the reasons I have always been against the existence of the C/K/JMA forums.

as I stated before.

My door is always open.

**Kintanon** · Posted On: 5/20/2009 8:28pm

Originally Posted by diesel_tke

As the western world has been unsuccessful in treating Fibromyalgia, the doctor's at Shands Hospital in Gainsville have been sending people to be treated by acupuncturists. They have actually been getting better results than new treatments like Cymbalta and Pain Management Clinics.

Any links to their results? statistics? anything? I'm always interested when a new treatment method starts to show results for something like fibromyalgia.

**Diesel_tke** · Posted On: 5/20/2009 8:31pm

I'll PM with details.

**maxthegeek1** · Posted On: 5/20/2009 8:43pm

I'd like to see them too, why don't you just post them. Does the study also establish that acupuncture shows better results than a placebo treatment, or even no treatment at all?

**Vieux Normand** · Posted On: 5/20/2009 8:45pm

Originally Posted by diesel_tke

As the western world has been unsuccessful in treating Fibromyalgia, the doctor's at Shands Hospital in Gainsville have been sending people to be treated by acupuncturists. They have actually been getting better results than new treatments like Cymbalta and Pain Management Clinics.

I'll definitely be googling this. Always having had a knee-jerk reaction to any talk related to "meridians", I'd be down for having my preconceptions shattered...it makes life a **** of a lot more interesting.

**Diesel_tke** · Posted On: 5/20/2009 8:46pm

Originally Posted by maxthegeek1

I'd like to see them too, why don't you just post them. Does the study also establish that acupuncture shows better results than a placebo treatment, or even no treatment at all?

I PM'd because I didn't want to derail the thread and because there is information that I don't wish to disclose publicly.

**maxthegeek1** · Posted On: 5/20/2009 8:47pm

Originally Posted by Dale Dugas

I have thicker and stronger bones. ligaments and tendons and have no such ill effects.

Hence I made my comments about the low level martial arts who injure themselves when there are much better ways to train the body without the ill effects.

Sorry that you have not been exposed to people that can show this.

You are more than welcome to come visit anytime.

My door is always open.

Low level martial arts? Kung fu is a high level martial art?
My theory would be either that you have not actually developed your bones to a significant degree, or you have not noticed/can't see the detrimental effects.
For the record, I think bone conditioning works, I just question its usefulness as far as being a training method for fighting.

**Kintanon** · Posted On: 5/20/2009 8:50pm

In reference to the data, he is exposed to some interesting raw data about which there is not yet a study. Nothing truly conclusive yet, but definitely interesting. I imagine we will see a study at some point in the near future. Just relax folks.