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  1. Mor Sao is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehogey View Post
    Statements like this going unchallenged are one of the reasons I have always been against the existence of the C/K/JMA forums.
    as I stated before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel_tke View Post
    As the western world has been unsuccessful in treating Fibromyalgia, the doctor's at Shands Hospital in Gainsville have been sending people to be treated by acupuncturists. They have actually been getting better results than new treatments like Cymbalta and Pain Management Clinics.
    Any links to their results? statistics? anything? I'm always interested when a new treatment method starts to show results for something like fibromyalgia.
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    I'll PM with details.
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    I'd like to see them too, why don't you just post them. Does the study also establish that acupuncture shows better results than a placebo treatment, or even no treatment at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel_tke View Post
    As the western world has been unsuccessful in treating Fibromyalgia, the doctor's at Shands Hospital in Gainsville have been sending people to be treated by acupuncturists. They have actually been getting better results than new treatments like Cymbalta and Pain Management Clinics.
    I'll definitely be googling this. Always having had a knee-jerk reaction to any talk related to "meridians", I'd be down for having my preconceptions shattered...it makes life a **** of a lot more interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxthegeek1 View Post
    I'd like to see them too, why don't you just post them. Does the study also establish that acupuncture shows better results than a placebo treatment, or even no treatment at all?

    I PM'd because I didn't want to derail the thread and because there is information that I don't wish to disclose publicly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Dugas View Post
    I have thicker and stronger bones. ligaments and tendons and have no such ill effects.

    Hence I made my comments about the low level martial arts who injure themselves when there are much better ways to train the body without the ill effects.

    Sorry that you have not been exposed to people that can show this.

    You are more than welcome to come visit anytime.

    My door is always open.
    Low level martial arts? Kung fu is a high level martial art?
    My theory would be either that you have not actually developed your bones to a significant degree, or you have not noticed/can't see the detrimental effects.
    For the record, I think bone conditioning works, I just question its usefulness as far as being a training method for fighting.
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    In reference to the data, he is exposed to some interesting raw data about which there is not yet a study. Nothing truly conclusive yet, but definitely interesting. I imagine we will see a study at some point in the near future. Just relax folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel_tke View Post
    I PM'd because I have an ancient Chinese secret and starting a new thread for a new tangent would spoil the mystique.
    Fixed.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

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    Fixed.

    Thanks.
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