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    Jay Queiroz - Fake BJJ Black Belt NY

    So I am sad to say, that a fake BJJ black belt in my neck of the woods escaped my radar, so I'm coming to this story a bit late in the game.

    Jay Queiroz has been running a BJJ and MMA gym in the upstate NY town of Marlboro. After uploading a number of suspect, and in some cases embarrassing videos of himself instructing, some in the NY Jiu-Jitsu community caught wind of it, and sought to see if he was legit. His Facebook page, which led to his outing has since been taken down, but at the time claimed that was a "Recognized IBJJF black belt." There is no such Jay Queiroz listed among the IBJJF database of black belts.

    Mike Palladino, a BJJ brown belt who trains nearby decided to pay him a visit, and see what he has to say for himself.




    His youtube channel:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3d...ZkIygKyQuEJaFg



    ***UPDATE 8/17/15****
    http://www.jiujitsutimes.com/update-...t-jay-queiroz/

    It’s been four days since Jay Queiroz, a man posing as a Brazilian Jiu
    Jitsu blackbelt was exposed by my students and myself. The video (Watch Here) has
    gone viral within the community, and their has been an outreach of
    full support from all around the world. I’ve received private messages
    on Facebook from practitioners in Egypt, Russia, Brazil, Australia and
    all across the US thanking me for exposing a fraud. While I am
    extremely grateful for the incredible amount of support, I was merely
    just doing my part in keeping the art that we all love so much – pure.

    Jay Queiroz
    When I first saw Jay Queiroz’s videos, it was clear this man was no
    BJJ Blackbelt. I did my research for two days before outing him. I
    wanted to make sure before I took any action, that I made the proper
    phone calls to coaches, teammates and other Blackbelts(on GFTeam) and
    had them watch the videos. I immediately felt for his students, who
    blindly were in a trans under Jay’s spell. Jay was giving out blue
    belts in a matter of weeks. Of all the belts in Jiu Jitsu, Blue belt
    brings with it a sense of accomplishment. On average it takes anywhere
    from 10-18 months to receive a Blue belt. Practitioners of BJJ come in
    all different shapes, ages, sizes and genders. What takes one
    practitioner 6 months to do, may take another student 18 months. The
    adjectives of “handwork,dedication, sacrifice, blood, sweat, tears”
    etc, are a broad generalization for what really does go into receiving
    a Blue belt. The countless hours on the mat, the struggle of being the
    bottom rung on the ladder, fighting and arguing with your significant
    other and then going to train, over time at work, not having the
    cardio to continue, a bruised ego, the list goes on and on for a
    fraction of reasons one takes the exit ramp on route to their Blue.
    The sanctity that lies within the achievement of a Belt in Brazilian
    Jiu Jitsu is unlike ANY other Martial Art due to the arts purity which
    exists because of it’s loyal and dedicated practitioners.
    Here’s what Jay Queiroz’s Student and Website designer Nick M. had to say:

    “I trained with Jay for a few months (about 3) it seemed a bit sketchy
    from the start I’ll admit but, I over looked it because he seemed like
    a nice person. During that time I got a blue belt in a few weeks witch
    made me completely sketched out because, from what I read it takes the
    best of the best a minimum of 6 months to get a blue belt and I’d say
    I’m just average. Too add to that he didn’t have any belt higher then
    purple until he ordered a black belt a while later (He claimed he left
    it somewhere I don’t really remember, also I think this confirms your
    theory that he actually may have been a purple belt). The sketchiness
    of that lead to 2 of my friends leaving the gym immediately after but,
    no no I trusted him so I stayed a while longer and trained almost
    everyday for about 2 more months and it started feeling really
    repetitive and I felt like I’d already learned everything he had to
    teach. At that point summer hit and I started working full time with
    the combination of lack of time and repetitiveness I decided to stop
    going during the summer although I did plan on going back once the
    summer ended solely because of the fact I considered Jay a friend and
    I should probably support him. After seeing this video to my
    disappointment the assumptions I had were confirmed. It’s pathetic
    that he’d lie to his students that put in countless hours helping him
    with his gym. What he did was low and I mean real low I understand the
    honor of having a belt and what it means in BJJ and he completely
    disrespected it. Not only that but he lied and took advantage of
    everyone’s trust. I decided it would be best that I delete the website
    I built for him because now I find it misleading (this is not an act
    of spite I just feel its in everyone’s best interest). The thing I
    don’t get is he still has people supporting him.”
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    Here is the black belt instructor teaching a basic scissor sweep..
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    Wow. That's pretty egregious technical failure.

    The psychology of this is interesting. I figure you'll always have people who self promote, but based on those videos, I doubt that guy has spent any significant time training. If you're an outright fraud, why would you draw attention to yourself with a youtube channel?

    Which makes me wonder if it's more wishful thinking and self-delusion than anything else.

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    After my own experience, I'll usually stick up for a guy if I think he's been treated unfairly by the "BJJ police". However, if you're sitting there with the accuser in your own school and you STILL won't do rounds, and believe me, I'd love to get on the mats with my accusers, then that's on you. Dude is fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweats View Post
    Wow. That's pretty egregious technical failure.

    The psychology of this is interesting. I figure you'll always have people who self promote, but based on those videos, I doubt that guy has spent any significant time training. If you're an outright fraud, why would you draw attention to yourself with a youtube channel?

    Which makes me wonder if it's more wishful thinking and self-delusion than anything else.

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    The same way that fake Karate instructors teach bunk technique, BJJ is just catching up in the market of frauds. The guy has no idea how bad his technique is, because he hasn't rolled with anyone to put it in perspective. He probably loves the idea of martial arts, and feels that after watching a lot of movies, youtube instructionals, and UFC, that he's qualified to pass on his love for the martial way.... for money :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Villain View Post
    After my own experience, I'll usually stick up for a guy if I think he's been treated unfairly by the "BJJ police". However, if you're sitting there with the accuser in your own school and you STILL won't do rounds, and believe me, I'd love to get on the mats with my accusers, then that's on you. Dude is fraud.
    This kind of stuff became a witchhunt in Austin over the years, for unqualified instructors and other things, so I'm always skeptical at first. I know Mike, though (he watched me get the **** beat out of me at the Sambo Super Cup in Moscow, LOL), and I think he approached it well.

    I've had several accusers try this **** on me, and the last one I belly-to-belly suplexed. \_(ツ)_/

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    Personally, I like the direct approach. I think that whining about paperwork from behind a keyboard misses the point entirely. It also doesn't give the person a chance to defend themselves. All sorts of stuff can happen to your papers, due to malice or just sloppy work. You also get fake black belts with real papers.

    The mat doesnt lie though.

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    Looks like the guy finally closed his youtube channel. I considered ripping his videos for posterity's sake, but I don't think he's going to be mounting much of a defense against the allegations against him.

    He's a fraud in the eyes of anyone who's spent more than a day on the mat with a qualified instructor.
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    I about died laughing when the student walked out shaking his head with the BJJ Inquisition guys.

    So apparently you don't even have to get on the mat with a real instructor to see it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Fucking hell. Even I'm not that ****.

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