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  1. DdlR is offline
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    "The Umbrella: A Misunderstood Weapon"

    Courtesy of the Bartitsu Society, a reprint of this classic 1897 article on the use of the humble umbrella in duels and street fights.

    http://www.bartitsu.org/index.php/20...rstood-weapon/
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    The burglar part? Priceless.

    Aside than that, it looks like a humorous article, hardly a serious one.
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    I loved the Lieutenant in A Bridge too Far who carried an umbrella with him in order to be unmistakibly British.
    Many things we do naturally become difficult only when we try to make them intellectual subjects. It is possible to know so much about a subject that you become totally ignorant.
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    Yes, it's a good example of late-Victorian humor.
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    All humor aside, my ex beat the piss out of a guy with a golf umbrella. She used the skills she picked up learning how to fight with a short sword, and just translated it to heavy 3 foot stick (golf umbrella).

    It was funny never having to defend her honor. My job was mostly to keep her from stabbing shitheads in the eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muerteds View Post
    All humor aside, my ex beat the piss out of a guy with a golf umbrella. She used the skills she picked up learning how to fight with a short sword, and just translated it to heavy 3 foot stick (golf umbrella).

    It was funny never having to defend her honor. My job was mostly to keep her from stabbing shitheads in the eye.
    That was one hell of a woman. If only there were more of her. *sigh*

    On topic, an umbrella can be a nasty weapon if you know a relevant skill. Me, I'd consider half-swording. Nasty, nasty thrusts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odysseus_dallas View Post
    That was one hell of a woman. If only there were more of her. *sigh*

    On topic, an umbrella can be a nasty weapon if you know a relevant skill. Me, I'd consider half-swording. Nasty, nasty thrusts.
    Me too, re. half-swording; it would still take a pretty solid umbrella, though, to be reliably strong enough to exert the necessary leverage. Golf umbrellas, with carbon fiber shafts, are about the strongest that are easily available.

    One of these would be perfect: http://www.real-self-defense.com/umbrella1.html
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    I have had one of those Umbrella's from when they first came out. They are every bit as good as the ad claims.

    For training, hard to beat the Cold Steel "Stun Stagger Stop" dvd on the subject of cane fighting.
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    Agreed re. "Stun Stagger Stop", although IMO some of the techniques are a little complex for actual self defense. It's refreshing to see a stick self defense system that doesn't automatically assume that the bad guy also has a stick.

    There's a simple modification for hollow carbon fiber shaft umbrellas that has been floating around the WMA community for a while; cut off the tip, slide in a solid carbon fiber rod and re-seal the tip, for an "unbreakable umbrella" at a fraction of the $$. You have to be judicious about choosing an umbrella with the right kind of spring/opening mechanism, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by "Odysseus_dallas
    That was one hell of a woman. If only there were more of her. *sigh*
    She's single now, and in Lost Wages. Go to it :).
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