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  1. CrimsonTiger is offline
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    RAAAAAAR! Fear the Tiger!

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    1/19/2004 5:23pm

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    *GRIN*

    *glances at Omega*

    Wastrel,

    I've got a special surprise for you next time, if we get to roll...*GRIN*
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    CrimsonTiger

    "Na'h, they should go to old school rules.
    One guy gets sword and sheild, the other gets a net and a trident.
    Lions eat christians between rounds." - Strong Machine
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    Such as thou art, sometime was I.

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     Style: Brazilian Jiujitsu

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    Right...
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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  3. JohnnyS is offline

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    1/19/2004 8:19pm

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     Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    My thoughts:
    Overhooking his leg with your arm will lead you to getting omoplata'd by any purple belt or above. Also, if you're wearing a gi you'll be easy to cross lapel choke since your neck will be so far forward.


    Secondly, why exactly do you want to slam the guy? Is this for a fight or for training? I'd suggest learning to pass properly. Slamming might work, but if someone did that to me in training or a competition, then they'd better not expect me to respond to their tap.
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    1/19/2004 8:39pm

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     Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

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    I think leaning forward would actually make it easier to omoplata - it depends on where your elbow is. If it's all the way around his leg then you'll get done with the omoplata because he'll just need to pull on your elbow, push his leg through and spin.

    I don't like slamming because I don't see the point of it in training and because it's dangerous. People should know how to defend against it obviously, but what's the difference between slamming and punching? It's not technical and it's only aimed at hurting the person you're training with. It also will not improve you as a grappler - do you think Mario Sperry, or Royce Gracie or Saulo Ribeiro need to slam people to pass their guard? No, they dealt with the problem properly which in turn made them better grapplers.
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  5. Phrost is offline
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    1/19/2004 10:17pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    In MMA, do a Matt Hughes, and after picking him up, jump down into his guard (and into the mat) with your head strategically positioned to deliver a headbutt on impact.

    It'll look like an accident, and he'll be KTFO.
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  6. JohnnyS is offline

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    1/19/2004 10:24pm

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     Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'm fine with slams in MMA and the street, just not training or grappling competitions.
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    1/19/2004 10:32pm

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     Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)

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    Oh no, slamming someone in training is a major asshole move. If you get a guy in a position for a slam in training (you pick him up), you should let him go and restart. Any half-ass grappler will know when they're got.
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    Posted On:
    1/19/2004 10:47pm


     Style: BJJ

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    I would advise Pizdoff to discard the slams and work on decent ways of passing.

    Many, if not most of the people I train with are fairly strong, and have good, dangerous guards. I'd be eaten alive if I tried that **** on them.
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  9. blankslate is offline

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    Cool thread.
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     Style: judo

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Hell, overhooking the leg will get you omoplata-ed by ME and i'm nowhere near blue level. And leaning forwards would make it worse, I think. You'd just be giving it to them. I'd go with UNDERhooking the legs.
    You want some birth control? You can smoke a cigarette.
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