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  1. ChickenBeakFist is offline
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     Style: Hillbilly Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackFox View Post
    Curled up on your knees and elbows, holding on to your lapels, with your head tucked tightly, waiting for the ref to stand you up.
    That description becomes so much better if I read it in the voice of Rorschach



    "Uke will shout 'Stand us!' And I will whisper, 'No...'"
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     Style: krav maga, bjj, mma,

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackFox View Post
    Curled up on your knees and elbows, holding on to your lapels, with your head tucked tightly, waiting for the ref to stand you up.
    Thank you crack fox. They must suck during neiwaza (sp?)
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     Style: Judo

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    I take the turtle as a personal insult, it helps me apply turnovers much more enthusiastically.
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     Style: Judo

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    FYI:

    1. At my Uncles dojo, if you turtled, he would run on the mat and stomp on your head.

    2. In a contest, if you are behind on the score, DO NOT GO AFTER THE TURTLE. Stand up and go for a bigger score. However, if you are ahead, attack the turtle.

    In Judo the turtle is a bit of "gamesmanship" that I feel has no place other than learning how to deal with it.
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     Style: MCMAP, BJJ

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    Why don't you just put your hooks in?

    If you work for it, you'll see ways to entangle yo'self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce
    3moose1 is correct. Sig THAT, you fucker.

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    I went out with a delightful young woman who was on a regimen of pills that made her taste of burned onions.
    That is not conducive to passionate cunnilingus, my friend, let me assure you.
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    I agree with moosey
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     Style: Hillbilly Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtripp View Post
    In Judo the turtle is a bit of "gamesmanship" that I feel has no place other than learning how to deal with it.
    I confess to using it here and there to bait someone into getting rolled into a pin. But using it out of timidity I would agree is strictly for wimps
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    Why don't you just put your hooks in?

    If you work for it, you'll see ways to entangle yo'self.
    I put my hooks in and I still need a choke within 5 to 10 seconds in tournament. I do it, but rear mount is not valued in competition. Nor is it valued in many dojos--many judoka value the turnover much, much more.
    What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates
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    See, i train in superior Brazilian Jiu jitsu. We don't have those silly stand up rules.

    Kidding.

    Anyway, I much prefer mount, over back mount. I just have an easier time submitting, for some reason.

    Try this:

    Get rear mount, and flatten them out ASAP. The way i was taught, by my first coach, was to "superman" Ie, straighten your legs, and force your hips into their back. This should put them flat on their tummy.

    From here, its easier to work the turn over. (in my experience) and can help get the choke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce
    3moose1 is correct. Sig THAT, you fucker.

    Quote Originally Posted by sochin101 View Post
    I went out with a delightful young woman who was on a regimen of pills that made her taste of burned onions.
    That is not conducive to passionate cunnilingus, my friend, let me assure you.
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyOldGuy View Post
    I agree with moosey
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    And finally, we'll learn a choreographed ballet number and have it judged by ballet teachers to see who did it best. Winner takes all.
    Nothing screams manly like leaping in tights. Throw in a deepthroat competition and it will rival the things I saw in NOLA for the Hedonism festival.

    (edit:my timing is horrendous)
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    Actually, I don't do it because I don't want people to be scammed - I do it because I enjoy kicking down the doors of Lies and Deceit and then forcibly fucking Fraud with the dildo of Truth.
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    I don't care if they gave it to him because, he tickles butterfly butt-holes while wearing a pink frock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    See, i train in superior Brazilian Jiu jitsu. We don't have those silly stand up rules.

    Kidding.

    Anyway, I much prefer mount, over back mount. I just have an easier time submitting, for some reason.

    Try this:

    Get rear mount, and flatten them out ASAP. The way i was taught, by my first coach, was to "superman" Ie, straighten your legs, and force your hips into their back. This should put them flat on their tummy.

    From here, its easier to work the turn over. (in my experience) and can help get the choke.
    ...I know.
    What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates

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