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    This is exactly why I would rather do just bodyweight exercises.
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    What would be the point of doing 100 barbell curls with 30LBS?
    There are not many fight scenarios with that sort of demand.
    Say you are a MMA; what types of strength do you need for each demand?

    If you like to grab your opponent and pick him up and slam him then you want an exercise such as deadlifts to mimic that general movement. Common sense tells you that you will not want to train with a light weight; but rather close to your max so you can pick up a heavy oponent.
    Ronin is correct in stating that "explosive movements" should never be done with weights; it is a quick way to injure yourself.
    Any "explosive" type exercises should be done with bodyweight or minimal added weight such as stair jumping, rope jumping, plyometrics, or bungie training which does not wrack joints with un-needed inertia.

    Personally I think anything over 25 reps is reaching a point of diminishing returns.

    Most people get their best overall results from a four day split (mon-thu/push tue-fri/pull)
    with endurance training on their off days.

    It is my opinion that most "gung ho" martial artists overtrain.
    High reps/low weight is the fastest way to do it.
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    Originally posted by ronin69
    The shape of your muscles has to do with genetics and NOT how you train your musles.
    You will bulk up with tweight training IF you EAT to bulk up.
    There are many athletes that do NOT bulk up and do some serious weight lifting.
    Genetics has alot to do with it obviously. Like why I have plenty of bulk without ever working on it. But how you train does determine how they respond and take shape. Including your diet as well as your exercise. Sure some weight lifters may never be as bulky as you are, however if they train certain ways they can increase their bulk. I am naturally bulky but when I concentrate on it I can lose some of that bulk and look more lean but I will never have an "Ally McBeal" body.
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    The only reason to do low weight high rep work is for muscular endurance.
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    Why do I need big muscles like you have to beat someone's ass?
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    Because you can look like Jean Claude Van Dammit doing it :)
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    Big Bodybuilders are slow and inflexible...they can't even dig in their own butts...who needs that?

    Not meaning you at all....
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    i think you should do plyometrics when you have reached the base strength you want low wieght high reps seems a waste you realy only want to train for power and explosiveness enurance will come on its own
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    Originally posted by blankslate
    Big Bodybuilders are slow and inflexible...they can't even dig in their own butts...who needs that?

    Not meaning you at all....
    I know,I am NOT a bodybuilder NOR would I ever want to be.
    I am glad you said bodybuilders and not Strength athletes.

    Strenght athletes like olympic lifters and powerlifters are some of the quickest people, for their size.
    Look at football players for example.
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    Good point...I guess most explosive top athlete in the world today do some form of weight/strentgh training.
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