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  1. snakerattle79 is offline

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    Heath Herring On PRIDE Against UFC

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    Win or lose, Heath Herring will never stray from a 13-year credo: entertainment first, results second.

    The “Texas Crazy Horse” has never had it easy, in Pride or the UFC. He’s faced enough top-ranked fighters for three men’s careers. The difference between the two organizations, he says, is that entertainment is job security in Japan.

    “It was a whole different thing,” said Herring. “The fighters were pushed more to go out there and put on a good show. The UFC’s definitely, if you don’t win – especially with the contracts they have – they’ll cut you with a loss. So I have had to change my mentality a little bit.”
    Given the mismatches that continue to dot the Japanese scene, not much has changed.

    “In Pride, I used to take fights on 10-day notice, one-week notice,” he continued. “And as long as you went out and put on a good show, you were fine. You’d be back next time. UFC’s a little different. And I think the drawback of that is that sometimes you get really boring fights. You have guys that are worried about winning; they’re not really worried about putting on a show. I think you’ve seen that in the last couple of events in the UFC, and that’s the double-edged sword.”

    For much of the decade, the 31-year-old has held a spot on Top 10 heavyweight lists. He’s fallen short to the division’s elite, but had many high-profile wins, particularly in his early Pride days.
    Whatever the outcome, he believes fighting is about the show, or more aptly, the rodeo.
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    But i think his fights have been boring and he's lost. So i really don't get it.
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    He's not going to last in the UFC.
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    I totally agree with him and it shows. UFC has clearly benched people for losses regardless of entertainment value. It leads to a conservative fighting style more than the lack of yellow cards do.
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    I have to say, I believe the opposite - the UFC seems to me like it endlessly delays the careers of slow and steady fighters while over-promoting KO artists with questionable skillsets.

    Of course, the UFC does have essentially a two-person match making body from what I can tell, so it's not as though policies are hard and fast.
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    Pride's fights always were so much more exciting to me. Kicking to the head on the ground stops all that lie on your back bullshit (UFC ahem). The cage might make for a more realistic, and continuous fight...but it gets fucking boring all too often.

    The UFC is oversold, as far and away the best fighting action...and it's just not true. Most of my favorite all time fights were in other promotions. That and the UFC's continued intellectual dishonesty about Fedor (on who's nuts I reside) makes them look kinda high school with it.
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    Is there ever going to be an american promotion that operates like that?
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    Well it is easy to have exciting matches with steroids, size mismatches and the like. The fact that we have yet to see someone come in from pride and do something amzing says something about ufc fighters...that said, I do think it is to a large extent a popularity contest (i.e. Rob Emerson during the TUF season and Kendal Grove after winning TUF).
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    I like the size mismatches....seeing Kaoklai KO mighty mo...and fight other giants with guts was intensely entertaining for me, and inspiring. (I think that was K1, which I love(d)
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    I dunno, I guess I'm just partial to not letting fighters with hepatitis fight.
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