Mukashi no jutsu - Doug DeRenzo

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 10/09/2012 1:37pm

Don't forget that because Phrost isn't a Black Belt, as far as he researched, no one has a Black Belt. We won't mention that people mentioned their ranks in this thread.

/continues eye roll.

**Sri Hanuman** · Posted On: 10/09/2012 2:09pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

Don't forget that because Phrost isn't a Black Belt, as far as he researched, no one has a Black Belt. We won't mention that people mentioned their ranks in this thread.

/continues eye roll.

Don't know what Phrost is waiting for. Kimshida sells perfectly good Vale Tudo black belts. Badabing. Mukashi criteria satisfied.

**ermghoti** · Posted On: 10/10/2012 9:01am

Originally Posted by It is Fake

Don't forget that because Phrost isn't a Black Belt, as far as he researched, no one has a Black Belt. We won't mention that people mentioned their ranks in this thread.

/continues eye roll.

Phrost isn't a black belt, and is the leader of a gang of bullies. Elmore doesn't have a black belt, and is a researcher of martial arts and self defense. Seems clear enough.

**Tom .C** · Posted On: 10/10/2012 9:39am

I'm surprised that the big "Chinese Children Posting Scam" wasn't mentioned. (PHROST! WHERE THE **** IS MY NICKLE)

**Chili Pepper** · Posted On: 10/10/2012 10:05am

I re-read the entire thread. Too bad the local bullies never had a chance to go visit him. I also presume whoever was tracking down the wushu teacher in NY never found anything.

I'd forgotten how entertaining this particular one was.

**Sri Hanuman** · Posted On: 10/10/2012 3:05pm

He's no Fred Villari.

**TEA** · Posted On: 10/11/2012 7:36am

Originally Posted by hungryjoe

Necro alert.

Came across this from Doug's site while looking up his video of students sparring (the cartwheel)....

http://www.mukashi.org/Pages/TheBulshidoStory.aspx

Had to add this.....

Holy flaming hands of crap, Batman! That video is even a worse offense than necroing this thread, so the latter is forgiven (although I would like the portion of my life back that I wasted reading through this morass of obfuscation).

Originally Posted by hungryjoe

http://www.mukashi.org/Pages/aboutus.aspx

Well, he's out all of $150.

http://nipponjujitsukai.tripod.com/njjkusa/id12.html

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So, the only evidence he provides (via his Web site, since he won't provide any directly via this thread) for his rank is through a dubious cross ranking diploma mill?

Originally Posted by It is Fake

I might write this up because we can't cull it into a MABS thread.

Kintanon contacted people and so did Uncle Skippy. He was basically outed for lying and puffing up his resume.

I think a short write up summarizing this train wreck would be worthwhile. Did any one ever go to his school to determine first hand what it is he is teaching or to examine his credentials?

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 10/26/2012 7:33am

Howard Popkin chimes in the thread on he first page? lol, awesome, and now i have to read this whole thread.

ANyone have a quick reap in the meantime? Being a Long Islander this intrigues me

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 10/26/2012 7:55am

hmmm so after a browse i want to add:
his proper spelling of Japanese words shouldn't really be a big deal. Its common for us to bastardize it, just as asian countries screw up ours.
Also, seeing his students' videos quickly, even if they do suck or look awkward, i do remember that i have done tons of nonsense trying to figure out training. experimentation has lead to some great training and doing some things that ended up being dumb, but you have to figure it out yourself sometimes. so maybe they were just caught trying out new things idk.

next, as GIJoe6186 said previously, if he is advertising as "MMA" because he is Mukashi Martial Arts, well that is retarded. Have some respect for your art. Imagine how much of a tantrum some karate guy would throw if i were to disrespect his school by claiming to teach his style.
its just bad taste/etiquette.