Thread: Mukashi no jutsu - Doug DeRenzo
5/30/2009 7:26am, #101
Ahhh, you seem to have fallen into the same mistake a lot of other folks do by assuming that "Bullshido" is some monolithic organization. It's not. The thread you started of got almost 0 attention. THERE WAS NO INVESTIGATION. Do you understand that? Bullshido did not investigate you. A handful of posters offered their opinion of the available information with repeated advice that the only way to really evaluate the school was to go there, try it, and talk to the instructor.
Are you saying instead we should have all said "It looks awesome! Go for it!!"? Why would anyone do that? The video was terrible, the one reference we spoke with denied training you. Since THIS WAS NOT AN INVESTIGATION BY BULLSHIDO it was left to the person supposedly looking for a school to do what they would with that information.
I'm having a hard time finding your objection here, are you saying we shouldn't allow people to have opinions? We should do a complete and thorough investigation of every school that anyone asks about? What's your issue exactly? It sounds like you just got annoyed that the opinion of the few members involved wasn't favorable to your school.
5/30/2009 8:48am, #102
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Not to belabor the obvious, but look on this very thread at how Mr. Popkin responded to questions about his background. It is in post 26. He was simple, direct, and folks respected his answer.
For another example, check out Mr. Tripp's response to a challenge to his lineage:
Odd claim against Mark Tripp's credentials, his response. - No BS Martial Arts
See, by being open and forthright, things go well. By being dishonest and evasive, you only raise suspicion.
I don't know if what you teach is any good, but I know how things appear in this thread.
5/30/2009 9:06am, #103
Actually Kinaton this portion:
Skippy does a thread summary on the 8th.
Evaluation of Sparring video ensues, sparring is deemed terrible.
Just so people understand that, this thread was going nowhere until, I purposely merged them to get Doug to post.
5/30/2009 10:49am, #104
You decided to keep pressing the issue.
You decided to provide false information.
You decided to claim a false name.
You decided to tie Mr. Popkins to the false name of Master P. Lan.
Fact: "go check out the school" was said in the second post.
You kept lying.
Fact: You have no tie to Howard Popkins.
instead , it goes:
1. someone asks about a school
2. people with no knowledge post their opinions
3. noone at BS or posters bothered to contact me,even though contact info is available
4.judgements were made from a 2 minute video made by a student
5.insults and demands to know my arts lineage
What I find funny is your ranting about "come see me for credentials" while, in the same breathe, demanding our credentials.
What's funny is Howard Popkins, MTripp, and NoTeefa have done what you refuse to do. You know provide their Biographies.
If anyone needs to know the lineage ,come visit.
If anyone doubts the quality of the training,come visit.
This was before your rant.
In short, you are misleading people that come to your site for information
Do I need to show the helpful video on Aliveness that was posted?
Do I need to show the explanation that Igi provided on sparring?
You were helped you just came here with an agenda. You were the only one trying to mislead people.
. You took on the role of MA police, DO YOUR JOB, better yet, don't do your job, because the MA world doesn't need a group of unknown faces behind a keyboard telling them that A is right but B is wrong.
You said your self it was poorly filmed.
Most people are smart enough to decide for themselves.
Why do people still fall for the Somali check scam?
Why do old people still get bilked out of their savings?
Why do people go to unaccredited school to get degrees??
People are not intelligent enough to make informed decisions without knowledge. No one is on this planet. That is why frauds steal billions of dollars world wide every year.
What qualifications does BS have to decide the quality of a school without attending the school and taking lessons?
Oh and again [email protected]=DOUG DERENZO.
You are providing a service, you shouldn't be trying to hide your credentials. People here are stating OPINIONS.
According to you "Most people are smart enough to decide for themselves." So, if that is the case, why the worry about our credentials?
No one has that ability, this isn't 1939 Germany or the world of Orwell's 1984.
I see no politeness and respect here , only hatred.
A ton is coming from the arrogant poster named Sten who, has refereed to himself in the Third person multiple times.
I am glad I can be of assistance to The Martialist and others that are wrongfully bashed.
I'm glad to. Go ahead and align yourself with a bigot and a racist. You know, a guy whose own teacher outed him as a fraud. The guy who hates blacks, the homeless, minorities in General, and anyone that disagrees with his beliefs.
Wait What? "hates anyone that disagrees with his beliefs".Another reference to Orwell's 1984. I'm starting to notice you do many things related in that book. Very interesting.
So, I take it your are now "The Ministry of Truth." Do we need to be scared you are going to have us reeducated?
You have yet to address that issue in these posts. Just keep making fun of overweight people. That's really in the spirit of Martial Arts tradition and Budo Philosophy.
Everything you are crying about has been addressed, in multiple threads, all over this website, that prove you are a liar who still hasn't researched a single thread.
When you actually practice what you preach, then you can make demands.
This thread is hilarious. Everything you demand was done but, you want reactions exactly like 1984.
You want your way to be the right way and the only way.
You want no one to disagree with you.
You tell us how it should be.
Good lord, are you going to start burning books that don't agree with you and your assertions?
Trying to start a fire where one doesn't exist?
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5/30/2009 2:14pm, #105
1) People definitely do not know better. Thats a fact and a fact that goes both ways:
a) People get duped because of a lack of knowledge about what martial arts are and what teachrs are supposed to provide...
b) TEachers become whores to these false ideals and have to try to provide impossible things to students out of ignorance.
When a group moniters in a way that is conditionally hierarchical like here, it is good precisely because people have shown they consistantly get duped and that the snake oil proprieters use this and wind up fucking the real guys with skills that pay the bills.
Now a days when I get people who want to do Dillman and and other such nonsense I direct them here to "find a school." This place does a great service its just that if you happen to be a skillless bum you probably feel like this place is a threat to your livlihood.
5/30/2009 2:55pm, #106
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5/30/2009 2:58pm, #107
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5/30/2009 3:05pm, #108
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Insults at 2nd posting
I realize that i won't succeed in changing anything here. Hopefully ,when people with sense read this, they will learn not to rely on this totally biased site full of teenager posters that have nothing better to do than rip on someone.
Most of them would never say such things to someone face to face, it is easy to hide behind a keyboard and a fake name.
5/30/2009 3:11pm, #109
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5/30/2009 3:13pm, #110
Louis Brandeis- Sunlight is the best disinfectant... on that note not terribly long ago mr clean passed away may he rest in peace....
Teenagers huh? well between Tripp and I that is one hell of a case of arrested development as he mentioned a 50year time in and I am rapidly approaching 40 years into this misrable obsession called the martial arts. Why couldn't I have been a smart divorce lawyer instead.. into the maritial arts?
Heres the thing... when you post a video like you did it speaks volumes... When other consumers and other participants in the arts speak about you in the community is also speaks volumes....
Like Kinaitan told you and he is absolutely right... we are not a conspiracy... I for one am not popular on these forums... but together a picture emerges through everybody's collective insight and that is what is so good... Because students can become informed in the process, an educated consumer is a better consumer.
As much as I hate to prejudge you it is funny that you take such umbrage to that comment about a skilless bum. Think about why you would take such exception to such a comment... think hard. Maybe a new hobby is in the cards for you?
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