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  1. Hedgehogey is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by adouglasmhor View Post
    Not unless you count so called Honour Killlings, or murders as many people call them.

    Honor killings are an attempt to force non-Muslim women to wear the hijab?


    "The only important elements in any society
    are the artistic and the criminal,
    because they alone, by questioning the society's values,
    can force it to change."-Samuel R. Delany

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    THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST NON-EUCLIDIAN SPLATTERJOUST EVER

    It seems that the only people who support anarchy are faggots, who want their pathetic immoral lifestyle accepted by the mainstream society. It wont be so they try to create their own.-Oldman34, friend to all children
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuiltySpark View Post
    Sorry Jim I always get the spelling of that mixed up.





    It doesn't bother me if some girl wants to wear a headscarf. Makes me a little sad when I hear about fathers beating their daughters to death in my country for NOT wearing a headscarf mind you.

    My blood boils a little when someone comes to my country and has the audacity to say 'in my culture women wear head scarfs bla bla whatever and we are offended that women here are not covered up in the same way' then they petition schools to have young girls, including my daughter, dress more line to their traditions.

    Give me a few days and I'll find you some articles to show you what I mean.
    No, I absolutely agree with you on that one.
    "Hey, Muslim jerky! Your beliefs are your beliefs, not our beliefs. See, we can control ourselves if we see a woman's chin, or ears, or maybe a shoulder or a knee, let alone their boobies or their coin slot. Get with the program & evolve your thinking, or go back home."
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
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    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehogey View Post
    Nobody in Europe is doing that.
    Yes... because it's against the law in western nations. But that's not the point. The point is...

    Would Muslims commit atrocities upon their women in Western Europe IF
    IT WERE TOLERATED BY THE GOVERNMENT???


    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

    "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post

    Would Muslims commit atrocities upon their women in Western Europe IF
    IT WERE TOLERATED BY THE GOVERNMENT???


    Who wouldn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehogey View Post
    Wether this is a sustainable, long term solution is kindof a moot point. I don't think anyone's arguing that. What clearly also isn't the solution, however, is an increased military presence. Restitution must be paid to the people of Somalia first. You cannot talk about stopping piracy until there are viable economic alternatives.
    Restitution by whom? To whom?

    I've read comments about potential dumping and allegations of over-fishing but I've not seen a lot of evidence of either. Further, the illegality (not anything about ethics) remains to be demonstrated. I wouldn't be surprised if much of the fishing were negotiated with some tribes, unfortunately fishing affects a lot more than that one tribe. Doesn't make it illegal though.

    Oh, and by the way, you're essentially arguing that the ends (financial restitution) justifies the means (piracy and taking hostages). This is not surprising (most people argue that way) but it is ironic because that's currently what the GOP is arguing vis-a-vis torture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyOldGuy View Post
    Who wouldn't?
    & this is why no one takes you seriously...
    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
    ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

    "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
    ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    & this is why no one takes you seriously...
    Coin slot.

    You are indeed the epitome of a serious poster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze View Post
    Not in Britain they haven't.
    Oh so it is a world view for broad brush statements for your point of view and a parochial view to defend your statements.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze View Post
    Again, halacha prescribes similar identical punishments. Yet you seem to have no issue with that system being used for civil arbitration.
    Evelyn Wood was not your friend. Please reread the posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lu Tze View Post
    Your hypocrisy is astounding.
    Please link to the article where the Jewish community in Britain or anywhere is torturing and killing their women and female children for dressing inappropriately, for refusing to renouce Judaism, for talking to a male who is not a blood relative. Something current. The christian bible does not qualify as current.
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    Oh I'm sorry, I forgot the Koran qualifies as the gospel unflinching truth and not open to interpretation, while the bible is obviously ancient and silly and don't pay attention to it, Christians aren't like that. THEY'RE THE SAME FUCKING BOOK.

    I already told you I can't speak for what happens in the rest of Europe, you do understand that Europe isn't a country?

    I'm a fucking atheist, as far as I'm concerned they can all go **** themselves. But I can't in good conscience argue against a right for one group of people when other (practically fucking identical in the context of the law) groups are free to exercise the same right. It's bullshit, it's hypocritical and it's prejudice.
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    Why are we all arguing? If America was nicer, than nobody would be mean anywhere.
    And lo, Kano looked down upon the field and saw the multitudes. Amongst them were the disciples of Uesheba who were greatly vexed at his sayings. And Kano spake: "Do not be concerned with the mote in thy neighbor's eye, when verily thou hast a massive stick in thine ass".

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