The Dragon Ball training principle

**Rocky16** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 11:42am

well, when submerged, there's three-dimensional resistance to all of your movements, becuase the water is slowing you down all over. when you walk out of the water, it's just gravity, pulling you down more. i think that training under water could have benefits to speed and power, but training with a wet Gi would probably just make you tend to do your strikes a litle higher than you intend to. like the same way dumbell punching exercises train you to punch at an upward angle if you do them standing up as opposed to lying flat on your back.

**WingChun Lawyer** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 11:53am

Originally posted by Rocky16
i think that training under water could have benefits to speed and power, but training with a wet Gi would probably just make you tend to do your strikes a litle higher than you intend to.

That actually makes more sense than using wet gis for power training. I suppose the greatest benefit would be cardio training, really.

Do any of you guys use weights in your arms or legs to practice? I would like to hear some opinions on that too.

**Greg** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 12:05pm

Originally posted by Edge
Anybody ever train with ankle weights or wrist weights?

If so, do you know of any risks or benefits?

I used them years ago to practice forms but stopped since I heard they can cause damage to your joints. If I do kung fu/karate type drills now, I use these weighted gloves, basically fit over your hands like regular fingerless gloves. They work really well. After you take them off you just fly.

I was never big on the pool training thing, or wet gi. I imagine that since Brazil is so hot having a wet gi cools you off.

But really I think all the benefits of these exercise techniques can be achieved and surpassed with intense, consistent and correct gym training.

**Gezere** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 12:14pm

The GI in water was done by many hardcore MArtist back in the day. This was one of Mas Oyama's things as well, along with freezing you nuts off training in winter. I'm not 100% sure but I thing the idea of training with weighted clothes is a chinese one.

As far as training with ankle and wrist weights. I use both but I caution their use. If you want to train with them train SLOWLY an work on form. Don't be like some idiots and think it cool to throw full speed punches and kicks with weights. You can laugh at them as the screw up their joints.

**Phoenix** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 12:18pm

Originally posted by Asia
As far as training with ankle and wrist weights. I use both but I caution their use. If you want to train with them train SLOWLY an work on form. Don't be like some idiots and think it cool to throw full speed punches and kicks with weights. You can laugh at them as the screw up their joints.

I knew a guy that used to do that alot when I did TKD.

Because of that, he's now not able to kick again.

**WingChun Lawyer** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 12:19pm

Originally posted by Asia
The GI in water was done by many hardcore MArtist back in the day. This was one of Mas Oyama's things as well, along with freezing you nuts off training in winter.

OK, but do you personally think that this is good for striking training, or do you believe it is good just for cardio?

Thanks!

**Freddy** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 1:56pm

Why dont people just wear winter coats and soak them in water. That should be pretty HEAVY!

**Freddy** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 1:57pm

The next craze would be chicks in wet gi's soaked in oil!

**WingChun Lawyer** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 2:03pm

Originally posted by Freddy
The next craze would be chicks in wet gi's soaked in oil!

Don´t you dare kill my thread with such a good idea!

**The_Ghost** · Posted On: 1/16/2004 2:09pm

I remember hearing something about water training, just like boxing it increases speed? I don't know if it would help with things like throws and such, but I can understand striking.