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  1. Classified is offline

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    A Concert, a Naked Guy, 3 Police officers and a Taser

    It sounds like a Farrelly Brothers movie.
    A guy dressed as a wizard decided to abscond with his robes
    and reveal his rather unimpressive endowment. The LEOs tried to reason with him to return to his dressed state because he was making everyone really uncomfortable. When he refused, the wacky hijinks ensued

    NSFW for nudity but this guy has no future in porn. Straight or Gay.

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    well I hope they don't try to use the defense that he could have had a concealed weapon
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    wow that's a small penis
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    What possible justification could they have had for employing the Taser? He presented no kind of threat; the only violence seen before they zapped him was a cop dropping a knee on his chest; there’s no way they can claim they could not have restrained him without resorting to weapons (and Tasers are weapons; they can kill, however rarely). Sickens me, frankly.
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    Greetings.

    What possible justification could they have had for employing the Taser? He presented no kind of threat; the only violence seen before they zapped him was a cop dropping a knee on his chest; there’s no way they can claim they could not have restrained him without resorting to weapons (and Tasers are weapons; they can kill, however rarely). Sickens me, frankly.
    Resisting arrest for minutes on end after being given ample opportunity to comply and after other, softer control techniques failed to gain compliance (and even after harder techniques failed).

    Just because you aren't violent doesn't mean police can't use certain means to control you. If you sit there flailing or act like a limp noodle or act like you have full body rigor mortis etc, expect for their response to get increasingly more painful for you as time goes on.
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    They could have bodily dragged him out of there. It’s not like he offered much in the way of active resistance. He might have got chafed a bit from the ground in some tender spots, but so be it; better than shocking somebody with a Taser.
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  7. Kintanon is offline
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    like a limp noodle or act like you have full body rigor mortis
    I have a problem with this statement. Complete nonviolent resistance should not be grounds for potentially lethal force. A limp or deadweight person can be handcuffed, picked up, and placed in custody without resorting to electrical shock.
    Inconveniencing a police officer should not be grounds for a tazering.
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    I think when you roll the dice on public stupidity, the prizes can vary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon View Post
    Complete nonviolent resistance should not be grounds for potentially lethal force.
    The People’s Republic of China would disagree with you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kintanon View Post
    I have a problem with this statement. Complete nonviolent resistance should not be grounds for potentially lethal force. A limp or deadweight person can be handcuffed, picked up, and placed in custody without resorting to electrical shock.
    Inconveniencing a police officer should not be grounds for a tazering.
    He was fighting to keep on his back, and to keep his hands in front of him. But mostly because the officers had pathetic ground skills, they look like akidoka only grabbing his wrist.

    Question for LEO's: Is it recommended that tazers be administered to the back of the neck, or directly to the heart? I would think that this would compound the risks of cardiac arrest compared to zapping them in the side. Do you agree with the way the tazer was deployed in this situation? Most people I see getting tazed seem to have their muscles incapacitated because that's usually where the probes stick into, but the weapon did not seem to be as effective in this case, and certainly the risk of damage to the brain/heat would be much higher.
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