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  1. Ronin is offline

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    just remember that sport judo throws are designed to allow for break falls, but the combat throws make break falls irrelevant.
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    "just remember that sport judo throws are designed to allow for break falls, but the combat throws make break falls irrelevant."

    Exactly. No fall is going to help you when you come straight down on the back of your head and neck.
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    What combat throws in judo? I can't think of one judo throw that is designed to not let you break fall. Done properly, you should be able to fall correctly with every judo throw.

    WhiteShark: How the hell do you roll out of judo throws? Er, which throws specifically? A lot of throws that just plain won't work on if they keep good control of the pulling arm and hold you up (minimizes your damage but also sets you up for nasty crap).
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    1/15/2004 8:26pm


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    Break falls are in fact the most useful martial skill one can learn. And although later in many throw-oriented systems break falling becomes less "classical" there are still a few benefits that trickle down...

    1) Fear of falling is overcome.
    2) Break Falls condition the bones to stress and stimulate bone growth (increase in bone density), so breaks and fractures become less likely.
    3) Even if not in a "classic" landing posture, the principle can still be applied so as to land safer.
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    Learning to roll through falls/takedowns/throws is good training from a number of perspectives:

    1) If someone throws you and you can hold on and roll through it, you have a good chance of taking them down with you and getting the dominant position.

    2) You're more likely to stay relaxed on impact. Too much training to slap on impact can create bad habits that will cause you to injure yourself if you try to do the same thing on a less forgiving surface (concrete, glass-filled-street, lava, etc.).

    3) You develop a stronger sense of where you're body momentum is going on the ground. The exxagerated motions of rolling are useful for understanding leverage in the context of working mount escapes, sweeps, etc.

    I still think breakfalls are good, because if you don't have the time to set up a roll-through, you still need to know how to take the impact in the safest manner possible.
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    Learn BJJ... forget the Judo.
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    Break falls ARE a great learning tool, but undertsnad their use.
    Try to break fall down the stairs, see how much fun that is.

    Also, the throows taught in judo ar designed to ALLOW for breakfalls, as you get more advanced you learn to make them combat oriented, and you CAN'T break fall out of a throw unless the thower lets you.
    Simple way: Choose a throw, now do it the traditonal "sport" way. Now have way through the END of the throw, LET GO of your opponent and see him land on his head or neck. That is a combat throw, you can't break fall if you land head/neck first.
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    agree, aikido breakfalls were useful, only thing i was better at in my college judo class than everyone else.
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    "only thing i was better at in my college judo class than everyone else"

    Im sorry
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    Originally posted by ronin69
    just remember that sport judo throws are designed to allow for break falls, but the combat throws make break falls irrelevant.

    Exactly, if the bloody bastard knows his stuff.....
    then TEH DEADLEY comes into play.






    "2) Break Falls condition the bones to stress and stimulate bone growth (increase in bone density), so breaks and fractures become less likely."
    In a way yes.
    It is slight isometric training....
    But there are better ways to condition yourself.
    And I did breakfalls with two injured wrists.....it didn't help.
    People could develope stress fractures as well.

    "Slap the ground hard" is bullshit to me.....
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