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  1. ignatzami is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmetShamash View Post
    Could you elaborate on solutions you see to campus security?

    Anyone have any evidence based information?
    Not directed at me but I'll answer.

    Campus safety is reliant on open and well rehearsed lines of communication between the local police, state police and campus safety officers. Good training for the officers and clear and concise plans for the student body. Regular drills on how to deal with a hostile incident, and lastly an armed campus. Campus safety and students both.

    Students for Concealed Carry on Campus (http://www.concealedcampus.org/) have some great resources on the topic.
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    I don't think students should be allowed to carry weapons on campus. To me the mix of drugs, alcohol and stupidity found on campus is too far dangerous a risk.

    Campus security should be trained in the use of firearms, anti-intruder tactics and emergency first aid for gunshot trauma.

    Security should also be heavily screened so you don't get the stereo-typical campus security dork. Or perhaps have the more checked out security armed and the rest do whatever they do.
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    Those are legitimate concerns. Would you be ok with concealed carry on campus if the university required a full semester firearms safety and certification class before carrying?
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    As a professor who stands in front of lecture halls full of bored, pissed off, hung-over, strung-out, rejected, alienated, unwashed, unloved and acne-ridden students all day long - the thought of that lot packing heat scares the living **** out of me. If they can come to class with guns, I'm bringing a bazooka.
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    Or just wear dyneema under your tweed.
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    i've done campus security. they don't need guns. in the states it might be a different story, but strict firearm rules and good access control and there shouldn't ever be a problem.
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    Cornell University had very professional and skilled campus police, and they had handguns. They always had my full confidence when I was a student there.
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    In California, campus police are held to the same statewide standards as city police and sheriff's deputies. If you think a campus cop at a large university like UCLA is more poorly trained and equipped than some small-town cop in Tuolumne County, you're kidding yourself.

    Are they LAPD SWAT? No. But most campus cops are good cops. It's just a type of police work that attracts a different type of cop than would be attracted to working in Stockton, say, or one that would work in Beverly Hills.

    Is a dedicated campus police force necessary? In terms of safety and security, no. Most campuses are low crime areas, relative to the city around them. The problem is, pissing matches between state-owned and administered college campuses and local agencies have made campus cops a necessity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neildo View Post
    i've done campus security. they don't need guns. in the states it might be a different story, but strict firearm rules and good access control and there shouldn't ever be a problem.
    I think you're missing the key point that nutjobs seek out places where there are loads of unarmed, virtually helpless people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost View Post
    Those are legitimate concerns. Would you be ok with concealed carry on campus if the university required a full semester firearms safety and certification class before carrying?
    **** That. If the San Bernardino Sheriff thinks I'm qualified to carry concealed, that's enough.
    (besides the fact that I wouldn't trust whoever the hell the COLLEGE would put in charge of qualifying folks taking said full semester class...)
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