NEW YORK MCTHROWDOWN!!!

**Ming Loyalist** · Posted On: 9/13/2004 5:13pm

oh one more thing... i expect that a good deal of the discussion will come directly from the results of the sparring... i.e. "please explain how you pulled THAT off."

with that in mind i don't want to have a "seminar" section and a "sparring" section.

i think we will do some warming up, start talking about some topics, that will lead into some sparring, then more talk (while others are sparring) then demonstations of techniques, and back to sparring... for instance i am looking forward to explain how certain TCMA fighting philosophies apply to the ground game, and i think jaychiu is interested in discussing it with me and then we can roll and see how it works in action. no ego, just learning from each other.

**jaychiu** · Posted On: 9/13/2004 9:27pm

works for me.

**Ming Loyalist** · Posted On: 9/14/2004 11:25am

ok so got off the phone with fighthouse...

we are confirmed for oct 17th 12noon-3pm (if we are "nice" and there is anyone else there working out, we may be able to stay longer)

possible rates:

$20/head for the whole 3 hrs (this would only make sense if there are only 3 of us)

or

$25/hr for up to 8 people (so $75 divided by the number of people) if more than 8 people come it will be an additional $5/head

this going to be more money than i thought but it still seems worth it to me.

info about the space:

http://www.fighthouse.com

122 w.27th street 2nd floor (between 6th & 7th ave.) 212-807-9202 close to subway (A/C/E/F/N/R/1/9) and close to penn station

**jaychiu** · Posted On: 9/14/2004 3:25pm

Should we post some stats and skill/training levels? Might make it easier to match up. I'll start:

I'm 35 years old (stressing the word OLD), 6'0" and about 225llb. (not muscle - all beer!)

Been doing this SBGi thing for about a year and a half so I feel like I'm more of a beginner in BJJ, clinch and standup than anything. Played around in a few other styles but they were all McDojo's for the most part.

Willing to spar lightly with just about everybody, Maybe a little harder if it's just sub wrestling.

**Raul Perez** · Posted On: 9/14/2004 3:32pm

I’m 25 years old, 5’4”, 158lbs. The short and stocky type. I’ve been doing Ryukyu Kempo for a little over 8 years now. I used to wrestle in high school and I have attended seminars in a few other arts (Modern Arnis, BJJ, Penjak Silat, and Tai Chi).

I’m more of a stand up fighter but I am no stranger to the ground based on my wrestling experience and Tegumi (Okinawan ground fighting – similar to BJJ). Although I feel I am a better in fighter/clincher than anything.

I wouldn’t mind doing stand up or ground or a combination of both.

**Ming Loyalist** · Posted On: 9/15/2004 1:18am

33 years old, 5'7" 145lbs (139lbs last time i cut weight)

did 4 years of high school fencing (sabre, captain of the team, went to the junior olympics), worked out with the wrestling team 1 season in high school, and did a year of tai chi.

other than that i have been training in hung ga with the same sifu for the last 7 years (with 1.5 years off when i lived in cali.)

i have way more experience with stand up, but have been working hard on throws and submission grappling for the last year.

i'm down to spar light or medium with anyone who shows up in standup/clinch/ground or any combo of them. i also do own a gi, so if anyone wants to grapple with gi on i would love to get the experience (although i will get tapped right away since i almost never practice gi stuff.)

**jaychiu** · Posted On: 9/15/2004 9:39am

No good at Gi huh? I'll bring my Gi then.... :D

**Kempocos** · Posted On: 9/15/2004 9:47am

Date is tough for me, If I can get there

44 6'3" 245 RYUKYU KEMPO two years then a break six years since starting again, JUJITSU, ARNIS, ISSHINRYU.

Light to medium sparring , I do not do enough ground so I would like to roll and learn.

**ojgsxr6** · Posted On: 9/15/2004 11:54am

I'm 26, 5'6" 205lbs, I did Jiu-Jistu for like 3 years 12 years ago, Karate for 7 months, Boxing for a little over a month. I really don't think I have alot to offer teaching wise but I'm going to really to learn. Also the guys that took Arnis where did you go for that I'm looking for a place on the Island but really haven't found a place.

**Raul Perez** · Posted On: 9/15/2004 12:00pm

There is a place in Massapequa that is really good. Guru Andy is one of Remey Praesas' better students. Very combat oriented and full contact fighting with arnis sticks like the Dog Brothers. I wish I knew his last name but it escapes me. small place but definetly high end instruction. Attended a seminar that he conducted and was totally impressed with his fighting ability. He also teaches kickboxing and one of his students is either a light weight or middle weight champion.