Convince Me That Silat Doesn't Suck Completely

**BJMills** · Posted On: 10/05/2012 3:07pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

Come on guys, all this arguing is getting in the way of not posting vids of silat working.

Here's one...

Ironically, for two styles that focus on trapping, there was not much to be found.

**goodlun** · Posted On: 10/05/2012 3:19pm

Originally Posted by bakuma

LOL, do you speak Indonesian?

Do you?
Better yet do you want to argue with a linguist?
http://escholarship.org/uc/item/2cg0m6cq#page-1

Originally Posted by bakuma

Yeah, why not, he successfully defends himself and knocked down his opponent.
If you think that the bjj guy is not valid representation of the art that's fine.
I can understand that reaction. ;) I respect both arts.
I was just trying to post some decent silat videos I could find.
Unfortunately the one I posted happened to be bjj vs silat.

Sigh, your reading comprehension sucks.
He didn't defend himself against a BJJ practitioner, or not at least one that has even attained there first belt (blue).
Defending himself against someone who doesn't know how to do the technique they are trying to do isn't proof of it working against that technique.
Also HE DIDN"T knock down the opponent, this is why someone who doesn't know how to shoot for the legs should NOT do it. He didn't do ANY defending the other guy laid down face first and got punched for it.
Its not a bad representation of BJJ its someone pretending to do BJJ that has seen a few fights.
Here is the difference I can show 1000s of hours of people doing good BJJ against all sorts of fighters that are at the top level of there respect systems, and the BJJ works. You have yet to show ANYTHING even remotely working against a competent opponent.

**bakuma** · Posted On: 10/05/2012 3:40pm

Originally Posted by goodlun

Do you?
Better yet do you want to argue with a linguist?
http://escholarship.org/uc/item/2cg0m6cq#page-1

Sigh, your reading comprehension sucks.
He didn't defend himself against a BJJ practitioner, or not at least one that has even attained there first belt (blue).
Defending himself against someone who doesn't know how to do the technique they are trying to do isn't proof of it working against that technique.
Also HE DIDN"T knock down the opponent, this is why someone who doesn't know how to shoot for the legs should NOT do it. He didn't do ANY defending the other guy laid down face first and got punched for it.
Its not a bad representation of BJJ its someone pretending to do BJJ that has seen a few fights.
Here is the difference I can show 1000s of hours of people doing good BJJ against all sorts of fighters that are at the top level of there respect systems, and the BJJ works. You have yet to show ANYTHING even remotely working against a competent opponent.

LOL, you actually spent your time online doing research about that Indonesian language. :D

**Chili Pepper** · Posted On: 10/05/2012 3:49pm

Originally Posted by bakuma

LOL, you actually spent your time online doing research about that Indonesian language. :D

Yeah! You totally owned him, man!!

... because typing "Dutch Indonesian Language" into Google is so fucking hard.

**TheMightyMcClaw** · Posted On: 10/05/2012 5:02pm

Originally Posted by BJMills

Here's one...

Ironically, for two styles that focus on trapping, there was not much to be found.

Two Observations:
1) I love when TMA guys fight, and then end up resorting to basic jiujitsu techniques they learned on youtube.
2) When I watch Silat guys give demos, they tend to primarily show off their l33tz0r trapping, slapping, crouching, and Indonesian Qin Na skill.
When I watch Silat guys actually fight, they do almost *none* of that, and fall back on TKD style kicks and San Da-style kick-catches. As we've observed from the Silat competitions posted earlier in this thread, a Silat match consists of little else than kicking and takedowns off of kick-catches. They also seem to avoid the sunken postures of "Demo Silat" when actually in the thick of things.

**Permalost** · Posted On: 10/05/2012 5:04pm

Originally Posted by BJMills

This video clearly shows that silat was devised for the mean streets, where you have to keep adjusting your baggy pants while fighting. Not like those ***** sportfighters with their rules and shorts.

**goodlun** · Posted On: 10/05/2012 5:53pm

Originally Posted by bakuma

LOL, you actually spent your time online doing research about that Indonesian language. :D

LOL you actually think it too me more then a few minutes.
LOL that you talk out of your ass and I back up what I say.
LOL that you think that expanding my understanding of the Indonesian languages is some how not awesome.
LOL at the fact that you believe in Fairy Tales and new age crap.

**Permalost** · Posted On: 10/05/2012 6:10pm

McClaw, you seem like the last person who would have such a problem with a style that insists that opponents should do a mini-dance-off before engaging.

**TheMightyMcClaw** · Posted On: 10/05/2012 10:11pm

Originally Posted by Permalost

McClaw, you seem like the last person who would have such a problem with a style that insists that opponents should do a mini-dance-off before engaging.

.....****. I really have no retort for that.

**Israfel** · Posted On: 10/06/2012 7:20am

Originally Posted by Permalost

McClaw, you seem like the last person who would have such a problem with a style that insists that opponents should do a mini-dance-off before engaging.

hey I LIKE Wai Khru/Ram Muay >:(

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