2/13/2010 3:22am, #471
Here's a couple good examples of Silat sweeps & throws
YouTube- Silat! Silat! JurusAction Packed"Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***
"The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19
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2/13/2010 12:53pm, #472
Thank goodness that video wasn't a compliant demo of maximum theatrics!
Wait...What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates
2/13/2010 2:22pm, #473
So when a teacher has to demonstrate how to apply something that is also theatrics?
Be consistant in your judgements thats the first thing.
Understand context... the Shamrock brothers practice plenty before going at it hammer and thongs yes? Teachers often teach and expect compliancy to do so.This thread never was a high quality conversation - My friend vern Gilbert on the William Acquier thread.
The fight in question having started over who owns which piece of rubble. Nicko1;2233174 On the Acquier Kim Fiasco slash thread.
2/13/2010 2:51pm, #474
Understand context? We're on a thread that has stipulated dozens of times that compliant demos are not the goal, that theatrics are not proper evidence, that there are plenty of compliant Silat videos, and that none of these are desired or useful to this discussion.
That's the context I was operating in.
As for Moose and Tripp: to my recollection I neither saw nor commented on it. Same with Shamrock. If you want to have a discussion about the validity of compliant demos in general, then I'd say start another thread.
Briefly, my opinion is that there's nothing intrinsically wrong with compliant demos, but they don't prove anything about fighting or function. Since this thread is about proof, fighting, and function, I am unclear as to how compliant demos are a useful thing to post.What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates
2/13/2010 3:19pm, #475
Mr. Tripp osoto-ing the bejeezus out of Moose is okay because we can fill this thread ten times over with evidence of athletic, fully resisting, trained grapplers getting the bejeezus osoto'd out of them.
2/13/2010 3:20pm, #476
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2/13/2010 3:36pm, #477
Man, I just actually watched that video.
Gym j00d has to be messing with us to use that as an example. Has to be.
2/13/2010 8:43pm, #478
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Coming from someone who has very limited MA experience (Karate basics and some BJJ holds) and no experience with Silat whatsoever, to me it appears to be like Traditional Chinese martial art systems, it has useful parts that might work in a more updated system i.e: Sanda plus its emphasis on weapon particularly knives, however l doubt we'll be seeing a traditional Silat practitioner win MMA fights any time soon.
Of course some would use the whole street fight argument to show how "badass deadly" Silat is, while having a martial art background is a good thing to have, it isn't always relevant in a street brawl. By the way, I consider the old BJJ is to be the true art for the streets argument to be total BS (remember how Bob Sapp slammed Big Nog in the ring? Imagine if that happened on cement or a guard rail)
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2/13/2010 10:00pm, #479
How would you engage Bob Sapp on the street?
2/14/2010 1:07am, #480