Convince Me That Silat Doesn't Suck Completely

**Jim_Jude** · Posted On: 4/02/2009 4:56pm

Originally Posted by escrimador6

I'm in full agreement with you. Always was.

Good to go, then. :qgreenjum

**Jim_Jude** · Posted On: 4/02/2009 8:32pm

Here's a lil' somethin' for the masses:
YouTube - Silat Suffian Bela Diri - Takedowns, Locks and Machete
YouTube - Silat Suffian Bela Diri - Buaya (Crocodile) Groundwork
YouTube - Harimau pencak silat
YouTube - Advanced Silat Concepts
YouTube - Rudy TerLinden SILAT

**karma2343** · Posted On: 4/02/2009 10:28pm

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I've enjoyed the Silat that I've seen and tried...my only complaint would be its relevence in the US as a legitimate form of self defense.

If I punch someone or choke them out in a fight, I think I can convine a jury that I used a reasonable amount of force.

I'm not sure the same could be said for a Silat player who responds to a fight by making several life-ending slashes towards the attacher. Now I'm exaggerating a bit here, but you get my point.

I have met Uncle (Bill deThours) and trained with him and he is an impressive guy. It is great to see a guy his age bust out a monkey form. But I've met a bunch of Silat players who are bad ass with a knife...but who have never been in a real fight or in a real sparring situation in thier lives. Instructors even.

I'm not sure what my point is? Generally speaking there is no better martial art to learn if you are intersted in learning how to use a knife. However...know that unless you happen to find yourself in a 3rd world country defending yourself with a knife isn't going to be looked too kindly on by the law. Furthermore, in many parts of the US, the knife isn't going to be very much help against the good old gun...which has really been the most popular weapon used by criminals since about the 1800's.

I never thought about it like that before... hmm, now I have to go to a 3rd world country to try out my Silat =/

**1point2** · Posted On: 4/02/2009 11:52pm

Originally Posted by Jim_Jude

Here's a lil' somethin' for the masses:
YouTube - Silat Suffian Bela Diri - Takedowns, Locks and Machete
YouTube - Silat Suffian Bela Diri - Buaya (Crocodile) Groundwork
YouTube - Harimau pencak silat
YouTube - Advanced Silat Concepts
YouTube - Rudy TerLinden SILAT

So you're trying to prove that Silat is about radically "special" (short-bus special in at least some cases...c'mon...) striking and other techniques performed at a level of aliveness that's even lower than Wing Chun. At least in bad Kung Fu, they'll move around and stuff. This is slow-motion garbage.

Welcome to Bullshido. Maybe you'd like some Matt Thornton, or perhaps, to reread my post about how to educate us about Silat in a way that doesn't give us the impression that it's worthless?

**Permalost** · Posted On: 4/03/2009 12:41am

Originally Posted by 1point2

So you're trying to prove that Silat is about radically "special" (short-bus special in at least some cases...c'mon...) striking and other techniques performed at a level of aliveness that's even lower than Wing Chun. At least in bad Kung Fu, they'll move around and stuff. This is slow-motion garbage.

Welcome to Bullshido. Maybe you'd like some Matt Thornton, or perhaps, to reread my post about how to educate us about Silat in a way that doesn't give us the impression that it's worthless?

Although they certainly don't satisfy what was asked for by the OP, going slow and showing dead patterns doesn't automatically make the videos garbage.

**theotherserge** · Posted On: 4/03/2009 12:56am

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lord, that ^ was awesome!

**Jim_Jude** · Posted On: 4/03/2009 1:02am

Originally Posted by theotherserge

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lord, that ^ was awesome!

yes, I like that also.

**Jim_Jude** · Posted On: 4/03/2009 1:04am

Originally Posted by 1point2

So you're trying to prove that Silat is about radically "special" (short-bus special in at least some cases...c'mon...) striking and other techniques performed at a level of aliveness that's even lower than Wing Chun. At least in bad Kung Fu, they'll move around and stuff. This is slow-motion garbage.

Welcome to Bullshido. Maybe you'd like some Matt Thornton, or perhaps, to reread my post about how to educate us about Silat in a way that doesn't give us the impression that it's worthless?

Wow. Completely lost on you. What a total douchbag.

**TheMightyMcClaw** · Posted On: 4/03/2009 1:09am

Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra

Although they certainly don't satisfy what was asked for by the OP, going slow and showing dead patterns doesn't automatically make the videos garbage.

No, but some of the creative reinterpretations of martial arts in the third video speak more loudly on the subject.