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    Quote Originally Posted by theotherserge View Post
    sure, keep your spine nice and plumb, move along in a nice and easy cadence:

    YouTube - Give Me PT (Marine Marching Cadence / Running Jody)
    See, that just looks like stiff, bouncy-on-bitumen-with-boots, torture running to me; like a short-cut to a cervical spine with no discs.

    I'm clearly missing a tangible idea of what good running looks like...
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    Your form is OK but there are some things that look like they need some work. Offhand Iíd say:

    Your shoulders are elevated Ė like the others said, itís a good idea to pull your shoulders back and down. If you canít, Iíd be willing to bet that your chest is tight and your shoulders need some prehab/rehab work (in addition to the traps). Might be why your chest hurt when you ran before. Start foam rolling your chest/pec minor and google IYTWs, or shoulder prehab exercises to get some ideas. If you do swim, a dead give away for an over tight chest is problems with your arm recovery.

    A good cue to relax your shoulders is to relax your hands/wrists and let them flop around. Adding a small weight to your hands isnít always a bad idea, but Iíd stay from it in your case. Adding weight to a dysfunction can make things worse. (sorry Serge).

    Youíre running straight up and down as opposed to forward. You arenít getting any hip drive and you arenít lifting your knees at all. Itís a good bet Ė especially if youíve been desk bound - that you need to work on glute activation and the muscles in your hip/leg that lift leg. This is probably why your back hurt when you ran before. Generically, this means single leg work, reverse crunches, hip extensions, dead bugs, band walks, bird dogs and sagital reaches/single leg dls.

    I think thereís a hitch in your right leg Ė might be a slight pronation but itís hard to tell from the video. Thatís usually a hip thing.

    Are you bobbing your head to one side slightly? Itís hard to tell from the shadows but if you are, stop it. It looks like you might be tilting to the right when youíre right foot lands. The only reason I mention it is because it might be putting stress on your trap.

    Iíd also do a bit of research. My favorites for corrective exercises are Eric Cressey, Mike Robertson, Bill Hartman, TR Goodman, and Mike Boyle. Also find out what a functional movement screen is. Chances are you arenít going to get a complete answer here but reading up might give you a better idea for a strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung View Post
    See, that just looks like stiff, bouncy-on-bitumen-with-boots, torture running to me; like a short-cut to a cervical spine with no discs.

    I'm clearly missing a tangible idea of what good running looks like...
    Take a look at Crossfit's section on running...
    http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html#Run

    The way you seem to roll through your hips - to me it looks a lot like someone who speedwalks trying to transition into a jog (but not quite getting there). And in how you hold yourself it's very similar to a speedwalk kind of posture (arms held high and locked, stiff back, roll through the hips and a very heel to toe step), which is great if you're speedwalking but will transfer way to much stress up your back when you're quasi-jogging. (obviously you're not intending to quasi-jog - see comment on how it looks)
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    Thanks, Marrt. Perhaps that's what I look like when I start. I'm not sure.

    But, yes: a helpful way of phrasing it. I'll try to graduate from quasi-jogging to actual jogging.
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    Look into FELDENKRAIS & Running or POSE running method

    If you have a problem with habitual posture & tension, I think that Feldenkrais method would really help break the pattern.
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    My posture improved a lot after my injury, but I suspect I've got more work to do.

    Thanks, Jim_Jude.

    Oh, and I just looked at Romanov running. Beautiful. A crisp, flowing, consistent style - I wish I knew how to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung View Post
    See, that just looks like stiff, bouncy-on-bitumen-with-boots, torture running to me; like a short-cut to a cervical spine with no discs.

    I'm clearly missing a tangible idea of what good running looks like...
    yeah, sorry bout that! I just got tired of trying to find a good vid on YouTube and went for the lols.

    here is runnin-maniac Dean Karnazes. He has a soft-cadence to his run, figures since he does 50-100km ultramarathons. I've seen him run in person so this isn't a very satisfying vid, but have a look...
    YouTube - Dean Karnazes Running on a Treadmill
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    Thanks Serge. It seems like all these guys run on the balls of their feet, have a nice, easy pendulum to-and-fro between arms and legs, and aren't too far forward.

    But I'm missing the subtleties. I need to know what it feels like, not just how it looks.

    I think I need a hand-on coach for this...

    (First things first: talk to the specialist, get recommendations.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung View Post
    Thanks Serge. It seems like all these guys run on the balls of their feet, have a nice, easy pendulum to-and-fro between arms and legs, and aren't too far forward.
    yessir, don't jam your heels as that takes away all of the "shock absorption" that you get from your legs flexor/extensor interactions. Also planting your heels into the ground will act like a brake, shaving off momentum.

    This is an argument against the fancier running shoes out there, the air-pockets and all that gizmo stuff can interfere with the feedback you need.

    Like if you only learned to punch with gloves on, then took them off one time and hit something and broke your pinky-finger straight away.

    But I'm missing the subtleties. I need to know what it feels like, not just how it looks.

    I think I need a hand-on coach for this...

    (First things first: talk to the specialist, get recommendations.)
    Isn't it irritating how complicated somethings can be? If your specialist isn't available, try running away-barefoot-from an enraged Platypus, see if you can't trigger your survival instincts into teaching you! ;-)
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    yessir, don't jam your heels as that takes away all of the "shock absorption" that you get from your legs flexor/extensor interactions. Also planting your heels into the ground will act like a brake, shaving off momentum.

    This is an argument against the fancier running shoes out there, the air-pockets and all that gizmo stuff can interfere with the feedback you need.

    Like if you only learned to punch with gloves on, then took them off one time and hit something and broke your pinky-finger straight away.
    Wait. You can get gloves to punch with?

    Isn't it irritating how complicated somethings can be? If your specialist isn't available, try running away-barefoot-from an enraged Platypus, see if you can't trigger your survival instincts into teaching you! ;-)
    Damned irritating. Like all the times I've been a beginner, in Karate, Judo, Aikido, Fencing, running...

    And for your information, Platypuses have very nasty spurs...
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