It's a Sad Day - Gracie University

**willparadigm** · Posted On: 10/01/2009 1:37pm

The only way to find out is to see what kind of students it turns out. I do know their initial fail rate was fairly high so they must actually be judging something. My question to you would be, what are you judging?

**Sley** · Posted On: 10/01/2009 9:18pm

Originally Posted by willparadigm

You're going to have to elaborate on that. You either haven't read my post properly or you need to be clearer. You're not making any sense.

Its hard to learn how to Grapple without practicing against opponents who know how to Grapple, I've sparred agaist people who have trained grappling without sparring, and those who train it without sparring agaist BJJ players, both parties suck, epically, I'm talking eight years of training in Crappling being beaten by a one month white belt, tapped in ten seconds of starting, repetitively...

Basically If you never spar your going to suck, think what if the Guy on the street has watched UFC, and was a Wrestler in Highschool, yea it was ten years ago, but he's gonna kick your Crappling ass.

**willparadigm** · Posted On: 10/01/2009 10:46pm

Nobody said they aren't going to be sparring at the higher levels, in fact i'd count on it. I've dealt with the guy who was a wrester in highschool and watches the UFC. I beat his ass most every time and yeah some of it is because I've done the work, sparring on the mat. Some of it though, is because I drilled the **** out of everything before I even sparred with it. The fact is you're judging before you have any idea what this process is going to turn out. Time will tell, end of story.

**Sley** · Posted On: 10/02/2009 12:43am

Originally Posted by willparadigm

Nobody said they aren't going to be sparring at the higher levels, in fact i'd count on it. I've dealt with the guy who was a wrester in highschool and watches the UFC. I beat his ass most every time and yeah some of it is because I've done the work, sparring on the mat. Some of it though, is because I drilled the **** out of everything before I even sparred with it. The fact is you're judging before you have any idea what this process is going to turn out. Time will tell, end of story.

Attend some BJJ tournaments like a NAGA event or somthing. (its both a chance to test you skills and really really fun)

**willparadigm** · Posted On: 10/02/2009 6:09am

Been there, done that. Did pretty well for a 45 year old blue belt with arthritis. 'Course, nobody was trying to punch me in the head but the Gracie combatives have solved that problem for me too. That's also been tested a couple times.

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 10/02/2009 8:34am

Please define "Did pretty well". Which division?

**willparadigm** · Posted On: 10/02/2009 11:08am

The division was adult men's blue belt and I finished in the top half.

**Angry Mandrill** · Posted On: 10/02/2009 7:48pm

holy sell out, fatman! i just saw a tv ad for the gracie combatives eleventy-zillion disk set selling for the low, low, one-time price of $9.95! yes, that's nine dollars ninety-five cents. who's buying? i didn't get the phone number, but i'ma gon' be lookin' for it.

**willparadigm** · Posted On: 10/02/2009 7:52pm

I think that's just a trial offer. You get like the first disc and then find out if you want to buy the rest. Something like that.

**Angry Mandrill** · Posted On: 10/02/2009 8:16pm

Originally Posted by willparadigm

I think that's just a trial offer. You get like the first disc and then find out if you want to buy the rest. Something like that.

it is a trial offer, but you get all 13 discs.

Originally Posted by gracie's website

Offer Details:
For only a $9.95 trial fee and just $9.95 S&H, we'll send you the complete Gracie Combatives® Collection so that you can review all 36 lessons, the 65-page handbook and the fight chart for 30 days before you decide whether or not you want to keep it.

now i'm not recommending any such awful thing, but 30 days is an awful lot of time for awful things like copying discs and photocopying handbooks and such, not that i'd commit such an awful violation of their awful copyright.