It's a Sad Day - Gracie University

**Hiro Protagonist** · Posted On: 3/11/2009 11:37am

Huh, they'll surely not mind if I order my Gracie black belt... In white?

**slideyfoot** · Posted On: 3/11/2009 11:39am

Originally Posted by lionknight

GJJ just ain't what it used to be.

Yrkoon9's post on the differences between GJJ and BJJ seems to get more relevant every year. I'm not sure if the self-defence angle so heavily pushed by the Gracie Academy wasn't always going to lead to that division, however, given that they've been deriding 'sport' jiu jitsu from the start. E.g., to quote another chunk from that GJJ Advanced interview:

Originally Posted by Helio

Here in Brazil now, everybody does jiu jitsu with rules and time limits. How can I fight a man much stronger than I for five or ten minutes if I'm weak and he's strong? I have to wait for him to get tired, so I can defeat him. Who is a better fighter? I, who can make him tap in half an hour, or he, that wins by points in five minutes, because the time-keeper or somebody with a pen says that he scored more points. The winner is the one that wins the real fight, which is what we do.

Same reason Royce gave for giving up on the UFC (though of course he did eventually renege on that to go back and fight Hughes), back in this interview from 1995.

**Cango** · Posted On: 3/11/2009 11:43am

The GJJ Street vs Tournament thing is worse than ever. Their arguement is "Oh, in the street, he wont know how to grapple"

So uh, yeah, the key to fighting a BJJ blackbelt in an MMA fight is to not know how to grapple at all. Thatll throw him off...

I can understand helios arguement, of not liking scores/time limits. But his grandsons are retarded.

**HappyOldGuy** · Posted On: 3/11/2009 11:57am

So let's see. People with no experience and no ukemi training are being encouraged to practice throws on their garage floors in front of webcams.

Am I the only one who sees the awesome?

Edit:I suppose my feeble attempts at wit should probably be moved to the YMAS thread. However that shakes out.

**theotherserge** · Posted On: 3/11/2009 12:01pm

Originally Posted by HappyOldGuy

So let's see. People with no experience and no ukemi training are being encouraged to practice throws on their garage floors in front of webcams.

Am I the only one who sees the awesome?

I eagerly await the You Tube "Fat People Fail@Ukemi" compilation.

**Snake Plissken** · Posted On: 3/11/2009 1:10pm

Originally Posted by theotherserge

I eagerly await the You Tube "Fat People Fail@Ukemi" compilation.

I anxiously await the "My Dog Is My Grappling Dummy" videos.

**M1K3** · Posted On: 3/11/2009 2:30pm

The Gracie University strongly recommends against using chimpanzees as grappling partners and will not accept any video that includes a chimpanzee.

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I would recommend logging on to the site (its free) and looking at the set of example grading videos they have posted there. It is most interesting.

**TEA** · Posted On: 3/11/2009 3:10pm

Originally Posted by M1K3

The Gracie University strongly recommends against using chimpanzees as grappling partners and will not accept any video that includes a chimpanzee.

Actually, a chimp would end up using the human as a grappling dummy, which would make for and excellent video. Maybe we could convince Moose to try it.