Thread: Mountainous Ninja Nerdiness
10/10/2010 3:50pm, #1491
10/10/2010 3:54pm, #1492
The easy option would be for him to shoot himself.. by accident of course."To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
10/10/2010 3:59pm, #1493
10/10/2010 4:00pm, #1494
Would that include the crawling distance whilst his heart fails, or would that be extra ?"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
10/10/2010 4:20pm, #1495
Am I the only one who thinks carrying a sword on your back is the stupidest just stupidest way to carry it?Originally Posted by MrBadGuy
10/10/2010 4:26pm, #1496
That and the fact there is absolutely ZERO historical evidence to support the existance of a straight "ninjato"
That format of weapon was created (and thereafter copied) by Hollywood film makers and no one else.
Ask yourself this question.
When the Japanese began to develop their sword and blade making technologies and techniques from their existing straight edged weapons, why did they move to a curved toshin ?"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
10/10/2010 4:49pm, #1497
My understanding of the forging method is that when its clay wrapped, and the cutting edge is tempered to a higher hardness, the differential in expansion etc causes the blade to curve, and it was quite a common time of failure, hence machine made gunto being curved already and oil quenched. I assume they were trying to harden the cutting edges, and realised early on they couldnt do both sides, as on a straight blade, so they did one side, got curved blades, and moved forward with that.
The funny thing about nihonto is that everyone thinks of them as being the ultimate in swordmaking, and in some ways they are, but they were also a product of the materials they had, which werent much. They were making swords from sand, so were heavily reliant on using processes to get something usable, and refining those processes to make blade making a repeatable and reliable process. The flip side was that curved blades that were really fucking sharp, worked well with the motion of the shoulders, a straight weapon is better at chopping/bludgeoning than it is slicing, and they didnt have the volume of resources to give a straight weapon the mass it needed, unlike in europe.
So where have i fucked up?
10/10/2010 4:52pm, #1498
I'll extend that, by saying that given how hard it was to get usable steel for blade making you would if you were a ninjer, be far better off by just stealing swords, than by trying to get the materials and forging them.
10/10/2010 5:11pm, #1499
Oil was used to improve the failure rate because in the latter part of the war the quality of the steel being used to mass produce the issued swords was considerably less than ideal, many of those blades were only partially hand forged, later being pressed into shape by machine to improve the speed of manufacture, many of those swords were forged but not folded to any substance hence their quality was reduced.
If Japanese sword making techniques evolved to create a curved edge which is considerably more robust than a straight edged weapon of similar quality, why would swords smiths make straight edged weapons for ninja ? indeed why would a ninja want to use a blade of inferior performance?
These are of course questions of rhetoric however, I've never found an example of a traditionally constructed forged and folded Ninja-to - contemporary or otherwise. Go figure ?"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
10/10/2010 5:46pm, #1500
But Sdork et al are delusionals, they dont give a **** about reality, hence all his other vids. He isnt fussy where his delusion comes from, just that he can play a role in that dreamscape.