3/11/2010 9:28am, #341
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3/11/2010 8:21pm, #344
I've never gone this extreme towards carbohydrate reduction but i did get my best ever fat loss results doing this plus a high carbohydrate meal upon waking. I also noticed no real difference in fatigue compared to higher carb, low calorie diets i've been on. If i'm ever single i'll give this a shot and let you know.
I'm really interested to read in the future what you consider an optimal combat sport athlete's nutrition should be like. Most of the advice given out seems to be structured around 3-4 days a week lifting.
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3/11/2010 11:40pm, #345
Then again, my understanding is that the lipolysis and catabolism are bound together by cortisol.
Really, the most important thing to figure out in terms of exercise science right now is how to decouple insulin's effects on muscle from its effects on fat.
The most important issue in nutrition right now is to figure out how to maximize muscular insulin sensitivity and minimize adipose insulin sensitivity.
But there's another interesting issue that I'd like to look into...
In terms of practical application, though... there's probably going to be some guess-and-check. Find some useful metrics (total power output during Tabata, for instance), make a change, and watch the metrics for a few weeks. It feels to me like the practical folks have outrun their theoretical support right now.
3/15/2010 7:08pm, #346
How much effect does this post workout lipolytic state have on fat loss? I'd like to know more about it if you have enough spare time over the next week to link some studies. The only study i've read on the issue suggests that only 180 calories are burned post workout as a result of an intense interval training session.
Bahr R. Excess postexercise oxygen consumption - magnitude, mechanisms, and practical
implications. Acta Physiol Scand (1992) (Suppl 605): 1-70.
This could add up with two training sessions a day but it seems like a pretty small amount all up to sacrifice the post-workout window for.
Why do you think a pre-workout carbohydrate meal is a bad idea? If we are restricting carbs to one meal a day wouldn't it make sense to use them to increase your glyocogen stores right before the training session?
Thanks for bearing with me.
3/16/2010 11:53pm, #347
Where do I stand on the subject?
My post-workout snack is a Blizzard.
-I don't think my university's subscribed to that journal, unfortunately. You got an abstract for me?
-EPOC is something I'm wrestling with. Upon further reflection, I guess you could divide post-exercise oxygen consumption into three components - baseline (pre-exercise intake), restorative (myoglobin/hemoglobin, up to the level of accumulated oxygen debt), and elevated oxidative metabolism (beyond accumulated oxygen debt).
this post (and the ones it's referring to). It's mostly a hunch about insulin "bonking". That said, you have to do whatever it takes to get prepared for a workout - emotionally and mentally, not just physically. In the words of lightly-fictionalized Rex Ryan, you need to have your hit stick up and be ready to kill. If "whatever it takes" includes eating some carbohydrates, then do it and have a good workout.
3/17/2010 12:19am, #348
3/17/2010 3:23am, #349
Coming back to the pre-workout carbs, I've been talking a pre-workout shake with carbs/protein and some creatine for the last 2 months (since making the Thread the Russ linked above) and from a none scientific feel these have been beneficial."Chance favours only the prepared mind."
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3/17/2010 8:23am, #350
Thanks for answering my noob questions Russ, it's helping me wrap my head around this complicated topic. I think i need to do another degree first to be able to design my next diet plan. Maybe i should just stop being such a cheap arse and buy the grappler's guide to sport nutrition . At least I've tripled my fish oil supplementation since reading that link you posted so this hasn't been a waste of time. As someone with a family history of heart attacks i found that blog extremely interesting.
In regards to that study, i read it 5 years back when i first read Mcdonald's stuff so i'd be interested to re-read it too. I still have about the same lack of understanding of EPOC as i did back then.