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  1. ignatzami is offline
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    She wants a gun....

    So, my fiancee is in the process of joining the Rochester Police Department. Due to some physical fitness issues (re: shin splints) she failed her physical exam for this year's academy. She plans on retrying next year. However in the interim she is looking to get a head start, take some martial arts and get in some range time.

    She has only fired a gun a few times years ago. I have extensive experience with rifles and shotguns but no handgun experience. So both her and I plan to start from scratch.

    She also wants to purchase as her first gun the Beretta PX4 Storm in .45ACP as it is the service weapon the RPD uses. While I do not think she would have an issue controlling a .45 I worry that the cost of the gun, and ammunition would make shooting enough to become proficient prohibitive.

    As for the martial arts, I plan on coercing her into Judo as it is both cheap, and widely available.

    So, my questions for you oh gun nuts are these: Should she start with the PX4? How expensive is ammunition going to run? Can it be bought in bulk, and for roughly how much? Is there a better gun given the information stated above? What pearls of wisdom would you like to impart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignatzami View Post
    So, my fiancee is in the process of joining the Rochester Police Department. Due to some physical fitness issues (re: shin splints) she failed her physical exam for this year's academy. She plans on retrying next year. However in the interim she is looking to get a head start, take some martial arts and get in some range time.

    She has only fired a gun a few times years ago. I have extensive experience with rifles and shotguns but no handgun experience. So both her and I plan to start from scratch.

    She also wants to purchase as her first gun the Beretta PX4 Storm in .45ACP as it is the service weapon the RPD uses. While I do not think she would have an issue controlling a .45 I worry that the cost of the gun, and ammunition would make shooting enough to become proficient prohibitive.

    As for the martial arts, I plan on coercing her into Judo as it is both cheap, and widely available.

    So, my questions for you oh gun nuts are these: Should she start with the PX4? How expensive is ammunition going to run? Can it be bought in bulk, and for roughly how much? Is there a better gun given the information stated above? What pearls of wisdom would you like to impart?
    I would have her fire a .45 first to see if she can control it, especially if she is not a big person. I would start with a 9mm for her and then move up to the .45 Berettas are nice, I have one, but I think that the Sigs or the Springfields are better weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
    I would have her fire a .45 first to see if she can control it, especially if she is not a big person. I would start with a 9mm for her and then move up to the .45 Berettas are nice, I have one, but I think that the Sigs or the Springfields are better weapons.
    She's a big girl, there's a thread around here on the subject.

    5'10 220, wightlifter. I have no doubt she will be able to control a .45 but I do like the idea of taking her to a range to try one. Only issue being I can't find a range in Rochester that rents guns to shoot.
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    Yeah she'll be fine with a .45. Check with your local gun store or gun club. They might have an idea of where you can go that will allow you to rent a handgun wile using the range. Maybe in or near Buffalo or if you want to take a trip, you can go to PA or Ohio.
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    I'll ask around. I'm sure there is a range in Rochester.

    I'd like to eventually apply for my CCW so I would most likely end up with a smaller gun in addition to her PX4 as they are HUGE guns.
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    .45 ACP is rather expensive, but perhaps you can buy reloaded cartridges, or reload them yourself. Myself, I just bite the bullet (har) and spend what I need to spend to do what I want to do (e.g. practice for a specific reason) but at the same time I don't go shooting all the time.
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    I don't profess any kind of knowledge about this at all, but it seems to me if you were planning on getting a smaller firearm for CCW and she wants a bigger firearm to familiarize herself with the tools of her future job, that kinda' solves your problem.

    Your non-compensatory, totally rationally sized handgun can feed a less expensive round than her knock-them-on-the-ground-with-a-sucking-chest-wound gun. You can swap around so everyone gets plenty of marksmanship practice and she still gets her hands on the tool of her trade, right?
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    I have no doubt that she will be able to handle the .45. If she would learn to shoot something with a little less recoil, proficiently, it will make it easier to learn to shoot the .45.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom .C View Post
    I have no doubt that she will be able to handle the .45. If she would learn to shoot something with a little less recoil, proficiently, it will make it easier to learn to shoot the .45.
    This was my thought as well. I wanted to pick up something in 9mm. I figure it's inexpensive, widely available (much like Judo) and we both can shoot a bunch while saving up money for the "Sucking Chest Wound Death Cannon"(tm)

    I'm thinking about looking around and seeing what I can find used at a good price. It doesn't have to be anything crazy, or flashy, just dependable and hopefully cheap.

    However, her father has instilled a stigma in her against 9mm. She thinks it's a "gangster" or "punk" round. I don't understand, but whatever.
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