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  1. Moleculo is offline
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    nuthin' ta f*ck with

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Some people can get big forearms from snapping their fingers together others can't no matter what they do. We are all slaves of our genetic limitations.

    No two people will respond to the same kind of workout program the same way, hence the "listening" principle.

    When I was competing I was working out six days a week. but still I was only working each muscle 2x per week.

    Once a person reaches a level of conditioning they can cut back frequency and intensity and maintain what they have worked so hard to achieve.
  2. Ronin is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I only do WEIGHTS once a week, I do MA 3 - 4 times a week, that is the difference.
    Look at it like this, after a typical squat workout, my legs are sore, and I mean SORE for at least 3 days, so I need at LEAST that much time before I workout and I DON'T mean Weight training, I mean MA.
    The worst you can do, IF you are training with heavy weights, is to SHORTEN your recovery cycle.

    People forget that, EVERY workout takes its toll, so if you do 3 MA and 2 ST workouts, you have done 5 workouts, per week, every week. If you are working out for size and'or strength with weights, THAT is too much for the typical trainee.
  3. Rocky16 is offline

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    wooh. thanks for the pic, ronin. ;)

    and i generally do 4-5 days of MA per week (although only 2-3 of that is actually hard training, the rest are light days where we practice more standing joint locks and the like, so it doesn't grate on the muscles TOO hard) and one day of heavy, all-over weight training that generally takes a few hours. i'm always careful of injury however, and i'll back off a certain body part if i feel it starting to go. i also avoid working out my legs heavily when i know i'll be doing kicking within a few days at MA (as a result, i don't usually work legs too heavily on my weight-training days..)
  4. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    "#2. One rep short of what you think will be concentric failure"

    For a number of reasons:

    1) I never work with spotters.
    2) It may be better for muscle development to go harder, but this leaves me way sorer.
    It is one of my highest pet hates to be at martial arts class and to be too sore from weight lifting to do something properly.
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    Hey rocky come on up here to edmonton and workout. Nice gym, new equipment, even a deadlift platform. Or go workout with my friends down in cowtown.
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     Style: Kyokushin and Judo.

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    Mike Reese and Ronin. Thanks for the advice.
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    Mm, I know what you mean Fingerormoon I hate it when Im too sore to do something in class, it annoys me as well cause I think I look weak, typical macho kick in at stupid times heh. So I just stick to cardio workouts inbetween my MA schedule. Using low weights high reps to tire the muscle as well. I do hard workouts every friday or sat, depending on what's on.
    Daniel: I don't know if I know enough karate.

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  8. Rocky16 is offline

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    1/12/2004 2:25am


     Style: Jing Jun Kwan Hapkido

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    where do you workout, smackdown?
  9. Moleculo is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Ronin and FoM made good points.
    Unless you are going for bodybuilding or powerlifting trophies, there is really no point in brutally inhuman workouts.
    A little soreness means that you have broken the muscle down and it will grow back stronger given proper rest and nutrition.
    A lot of soreness that lasts several days is something to avoid, especially if you are doing MA classes on top of it.
    Also you should be wary of any type of chronic soreness that could lead to a gradual onset injury that could put you out of the game for months or even permanently.
    Many beginners tend to work out much harder than they need to for muscle growth or strength increases.
    If you are consistent in your workouts, progress will come
    Patience, Grasshopper.
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    Remember the SECRET to progressive resistence training : PROGRESS !!!!!!
    You MUST increase the weight being lifted on a regular basis or you are NOT becoming stronger.
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