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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyOldGuy View Post
    According to the so-on-point-and-relevant-that-nobody-bothered-to-read-it case study I posted earlier in the thread, it can. Just rarely.

    Okay, you got me.

    However, in an effort to save face (yeah, it's ghey, shutup), I will point out that that particular case resolved on its own without treatment. And, not only did he fight an additional three rounds after receiving the blow which caused it, he won the bout.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    and to what extent was an embolism at least partially to blame for this?

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    pneumothorax......been there, don't recommend it :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Plissken View Post
    and to what extent was an embolism at least partially to blame for this?
    Shut up.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan View Post
    Shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBadGuy View Post
    Right, but the point was (or at least I think it was) the plausibility of there being a martial arts strike that times an opponent taking a large deep breath and then after sensing him swallowing his spit I decide to punch him as hard as I can in the lung is a tad on the ridiculous side.

    But, yea, good show.

    I don't understand. Guys in other MAs don't do that?

    In ninjitsu, we do it all the time. Didn't you see the ninja punch or National Geographic's Fight Science?
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    Considering how weird a lot of bullshido is, it wouldn't be surprising that some martial art would focus on it. And if the instructor of that med class was an average joe with no resistance to martial lies, it would be quite easy to convince him of the special attack with a little bit of legitimate medical possibility.

    When I was an instructor of Tae Kwon Do in college, a smaller guy was begging me to teach him a way that he could use his small size and speed/lack of mass to turn someone's power against them by redirecting the force of their blows. He was convinced that he could turn someone else's strength to their disadvantage. I would have accepted his tomfoolery if 1) we weren't at the most prestigious private university in the state and 2) his majors weren't philosphy and physics.

    It doesn't really matter if the man OP was listening to was a soon-to-be doctor. He was probably convinced by some ninjer that there were martial arts dedicated to exploiting abstract medical theory illustrated by the case study that HappyOldGuy graciously supplied us. In my opinion, even if a doctor says some mystical martial arts attack is possible, everyone should adopt the mantra:

    Video or it didn't happen.

    Or to be more medically acceptable:

    Double blind trials or it didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttankzero View Post
    Video or it didn't happen.

    Or to be more medically acceptable:

    Double blind trials or it didn't happen.
    Good luck getting that trial past the ethics committee.
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    Well, the other stuff I read kept contrasting this rare event with the much more common case where broken ribs caused a puncture. So it would seem like the most effective secret martial arts technique for rupturing someones lung is the secret boxing hook to the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Plissken View Post

    Dude....

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    There is a condition called spontaneous pneumothrax where young men, usually tall, slender, and athletic can spontaneously pop a hole in their lung during exercise. It's rarely fatal though. I have worked car wrecks where patients have had suffered pneumothorax from impact with the steering wheel (no broken ribs) and also worked accident scenes where old dudes fell from ladders and popped pneumos. It can happen. If you've got an old dude, or someone genetically prone to pneumos and you're a pro boxer and hit them hella good, you could pop a lung. Otherwise, it's unlikely. You can disrupt the electrical conduction of the heart with a blow to the chest. When you wittness a cardiac arrest, it is common to issue a precordial thump to try to bring them out of their dysrhythmia. It seldom works though. All in all, the body is quite resilliant. It takes quite a bit to break it with your fists and feet... I suggest the med student has been watching too many movies...

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