Pop goes your lung

**sasquatch989** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 1:50am

Originally Posted by SuperGuido

This happened to a young guy at a karate point sparring tournament I competed in when I was a teenager. Poor guy took a punch to the chest, fell down, and died shortly thereafter.

It was fairly traumatic, with his mother freaking out and his opponent (also a classmate of his) sobbing over in the corner.

http://www.blackbeltblog.net/blogrep...akfprogram.pdf

Page 21, William Arthur Battin.

Oh Lawdy+-----> KROTTY FTW??

Originally Posted by 3moose1

Be careful. I've started to learn _un, and, as we all know, _ung is great for hockey fighting.

I nominate this for a new YMAS thread...."Hockey fighting: Worth it or Bullshido?"

**ttankzero** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 10:54am

Originally Posted by MrBadGuy

Is your mouth/nose cemented shut or something? What's keeping the air from exiting?

If you make the mistake of breathing in deeply and then swallowing spit, or anything else for that matter, a quick strong punch would severly increase the air pressure in your lungs while the trachea is not usable for breathing due to the movement of the esophogus. This also defeats any ear-popping arguments, because your throat is sealed and your breath doesn't have a path to your head.

It sounds unlikely. But then again, that's probably why it's so rare.

**Tom Kagan** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 11:08am

Popping a lung can happen easily: Use a knife to make the strike.

Seriously, has this fucking moron who'll be responsible for people's lives never played with a balloon? Blow one up and start hitting it. You'll see just how ridiculous this whole notion is.

**3moose1** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 11:20am

A friend of mine's lung spontaneously got hooked onto his rib somehow, or something. I don't know, his lung started leaking air, and he almost died.

Doctor called it a spontaneous pleurosis or some such nonsense. I felt terrible, as it was the night after BJJ, and i was knee riding the ever loving **** out of him...

**TheLordHumungus** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 11:33am

Originally Posted by sasquatch989

I nominate this for a new YMAS thread...."Hockey fighting: Worth it or Bullshido?"

I can abide a whole lot, but questioning the awesomeness of hockey fights is too much. There can be no dispute over whether or not Tie Domi was a badass.

**Tom Kagan** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 11:34am

Originally Posted by 3moose1

A friend of mine's lung spontaneously got hooked onto his rib somehow, or something. I don't know, his lung started leaking air, and he almost died.

Doctor called it a spontaneous pleurosis or some such nonsense. I felt terrible, as it was the night after BJJ, and i was knee riding the ever loving **** out of him...

I really need to stop paying attention to thread in which you post. That way, when you post something stupid, I won't have a need to correct you.

Pleurosis is caused by infection. It's also has nothing to do with the scenario outlined by The Question. So, unless you infected him, you didn't cause it.

Since The Question is in med school, I suspect he already knows what what it is he describes. It's called traumatic pneumothorax. It doesn't happen on its own by getting hit... unless you are talking about getting beaten with a baseball bat.

**Snake Plissken** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 11:57am

Originally Posted by sasquatch989

I nominate this for a new YMAS thread...."Hockey fighting: Worth it or Bullshido?"

Bullshido.

**HappyOldGuy** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 11:59am

Originally Posted by Tom Kagan

Since The Question is in med school, I suspect he already knows what what it is he describes. It's called traumatic pneumothorax. It doesn't happen on its own by getting hit... unless you are talking about getting beaten with a baseball bat.

According to the so-on-point-and-relevant-that-nobody-bothered-to-read-it case study I posted earlier in the thread, it can. Just rarely.

**3moose1** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 12:01pm

Originally Posted by Tom Kagan

I really need to stop paying attention to thread in which you post. That way, when you post something stupid, I won't have a need to correct you.

Pleurosis is caused by infection. It's also has nothing to do with the scenario outlined by The Question. So, unless you infected him, you didn't cause it.

Since The Question is in med school, I suspect he already knows what what it is he describes. It's called traumatic pneumothorax. It doesn't happen on its own by getting hit... unless you are talking about getting beaten with a baseball bat.

Pneumothorax. Thats it.

I watched House last night, hence the confusion. I mean, its not like I'm in fucking med school or anything, so give me a break.

And I was talking about what happened to my friend, which sounds a lot like what Q-dot described. I'm not sure if the knee-riding had anything to do with it, and i feel alot better because you say it doesn't really happen like that.

**MrBadGuy** · Posted On: 2/23/2009 12:10pm

Originally Posted by ttankzero

If you make the mistake of breathing in deeply and then swallowing spit, or anything else for that matter, a quick strong punch would severly increase the air pressure in your lungs while the trachea is not usable for breathing due to the movement of the esophogus. This also defeats any ear-popping arguments, because your throat is sealed and your breath doesn't have a path to your head.

It sounds unlikely. But then again, that's probably why it's so rare.

Right, but the point was (or at least I think it was) the plausibility of there being a martial arts strike that times an opponent taking a large deep breath and then after sensing him swallowing his spit I decide to punch him as hard as I can in the lung is a tad on the ridiculous side.

But, yea, good show.