Thread: Pop goes your lung
2/22/2009 8:27pm, #1
Pop goes your lung
Right, so I'm up in this class trying to get my learn on so I don't become completely fucking useless, but I'm falling asleep because motherfuckers are boring and ****. Suddenly I hear the high level medical student/emergency medicine technician who is giving the lecture say something that hit me like a spinning baseball bat to the skull. Somewhere in between discussing decompressing a tension pneumothorax and collision physics I hear:
"You see, there's actually a martial arts move where you can wait until someone takes a breath in and then hit them with a blow. The effect will be similar to inflating a balloon and then hitting it. One they're hit, the lung will blow out and they'll be able to do nothing except pray for someone to take them to the hospital".
I stood slack jawed in disbelief for a few milliseconds before standing up and uttering "Excuse me sir, but what the ****?".
Well, of course I didn't fucking do that, but WTF bells were going off all over the place.
Then I pondered it, and realized that in a few months this dude was going to be a bona fide Doctor with a degree and ****, with substancial understanding of anatomy/physiology/kinematics, so I figure the idea might not be 100% riddic.
So I'm asking, is it possible that someone can have their lung go "Pop Pop" from getting punched in the chest? Has anyone ever heard of or seen this happen?Originally Posted by Goju - joe
2/22/2009 8:36pm, #2So I'm asking, is it possible that someone can have their lung go "Pop Pop" from getting punched in the chest? Has anyone ever heard of or seen this happen?
2/22/2009 8:37pm, #3
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Ask him if he knows what ribs are.
The worst that could happen is that a really hard punch may break a rib which might puncture the lung, but even when that happens you dont POP like Pringles.
However i heard a rumour, if you punch a person a bit above the solar, right in the heart, while the heart is contracting or expanding, it makes their head go
Is that true ?
2/22/2009 8:50pm, #4
HT Yes, sort of. If there is significant impact to the heart at a very significant moment, i believe it is a moment during the t wave, you can cause cardiac arrest. It is very rare but it has happened. The most prominent case was a a few years ago when a little leaguer got hit in the chest with a pitch and died instantly, but that **** is soooo rare. As for heads exploding....sorry, wish it were true b/c then i would be in my basement studying teh deadly pitch.
2/22/2009 8:51pm, #5
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It kinda just sounds like he was talking about knocking the wind out of somebody... but that's hardly special.
2/22/2009 8:52pm, #6
Just sounds like a winding.
But I'm not a physio...
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2/22/2009 9:45pm, #7
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Well, after some hunting around, it looks like it is possible but very rare and only moderately nasty. Apparently punctures due to broken ribs are much more common. So I definetely wouldn't buy the "ancient martial arts move" part.
2/22/2009 9:49pm, #8
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2/22/2009 9:58pm, #9
It was fairly traumatic, with his mother freaking out and his opponent (also a classmate of his) sobbing over in the corner.
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2/22/2009 10:01pm, #10
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Is your mouth/nose cemented shut or something? What's keeping the air from exiting?