3/03/2009 9:11pm, #31Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.
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3/03/2009 9:15pm, #32
3/03/2009 10:12pm, #33
In my experience, they're introduced early in one's CMA education, after which the training progresses to plyometric movements that include squatting postures (drills and forms). Holding the static pose for a few minutes a few times a week is enough to help prevents injuries during these exercises.
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3/04/2009 10:50am, #34
3/04/2009 4:34pm, #35
Endurance, leg strength, "rootedness".
3/04/2009 6:03pm, #36
- Join Date
- Dec 2004
if you are going thighs parallel, the hips need to "roll out" a little bit-otherwise it is unatural. When people read in books, that the hips need to be "tucked under" it is only to prevent them from sticking their butts out like they're squatting to go to the bathroom. People-usually those without real training mistake this for tucking in too much. You will see this very often in tournaments where guys from poor kempo schools train. Schools from "Saholin Kempo" offshoots from Vilari etc usually are pretty clueless when it comes to proper traditional training methods, such as structure, stance, power generation and breathing.
3/04/2009 6:55pm, #37
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- Dec 2004
The other thing that horse trains is the proper mindset required to learn TCMA. I know some say this is dangling a carrot, or fleecing the student, but not all Sifus are out there in big schools, teaching for money. The awareness of one's own body and structural alignments are first taught during the horse training. This is why it teaches the student to "root." It has nothing to do with sinking into a horse stance. If you understand body alignment and structure, you can root from any position. The horse teaches the mind/body connection (hate to sound cliche' but cliches develop usually because they are common beliefs that are repeated due to their inherent wisdom) The mental discipline and work ethic is very important. Although there are many skills that can be learned in a short amount of time, like kicking, punching, etc, there are also skills that require an investment over a period of time. This is not understood by beginners, and only after spending the time, do people actually,"get it." Then they realize why their Sifu spent all that time training them in what they deemed meanungless bullshit.
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3/05/2009 2:12pm, #38
3/05/2009 3:22pm, #39
The Horse Stance is not a useless exercise.
3/05/2009 4:19pm, #40
From the Original Post:
We've had countless threads arguing over the utility of the horse stance. I would very much like this not to be another one.
NJM, I agree.