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    No problem daddy. I see that you are pretty new here. Here are links to two investigations I have done where I went to the school and confronted the instructor.

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...ht=Jimmy+Lyons

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...ris+Valkenburg

    Not that these are the blueprint for these types of investigations but they may give you some ideas for how to approach it.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddywalrus View Post
    I live in Adelaide, Australia and my friend has claimed he is now being trained by someone who has learned a secret central intelligence agency martial art. He pays $150 AU a month to go this guy and aparently all they have learnt so far is knife defence. They do not warm up at all during the lesson either.

    Not only is this suspicious enough, he had to sign a contract that made him keep the entire thing a secret!


    I learn BJJ at the Brazilian Top Team base in Adelaide and i have questioned him about the entire thing. Because of this he asked his trainer about BJJ....and the guy claims he 'knows it' and that he will train him in BJJ...

    I know some of the guys at BTT train Krav Maga at another school but i doubt they claim its a 'secret art' of the CIA.

    I think this is a classic case of Bullshido and that ill prove it to him when he rolls with me and i will explain that he was not taught BJJ at all (I suspect he will be taught an armbar/triangle/guillotine and not anything else)


    But before I go all out on trying to disprove this secret CIA martial art is tehre by any slim slim slim slight possibility that he is not bullshiting and that he is teaching something 'secret'?...in Adelaide (which i might add is at the bottom of Australia)

    His training sounds similar to combatives/Krav Maga....but i doubt its either....
    why as a matter of fact it is a good thing you asked! Yes there is and the rub is nobody is allowed to practice it, talk about it, or intimate its existance (notice I said IT). When I learned it we just had a secret handshake where we would take the two front fingers stick them in our rear and put em under the other guy's nose. If the guy smelled the appropriate smell we were training brothers! Of course we could not talk about it or practice it but we knew...at that point we KNEW!!!

    What do you think? Aussies are generally smart level headed mates with a big BS detector me thinks! TEll me when you read your post wich started this thread what would be your impression? Do you think your friend is training in an art sponsored by an American agency (In Australia no less) that your friend just happened upon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by electron jockey View Post
    He's obviously one of them. His denials only serve to further prove the existance of this secret CIA martial art. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE, PEOPLE.
    Someone will be with you shortly. Please ignore the black helicopters overhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenJonas View Post
    No problem daddy. I see that you are pretty new here. Here are links to two investigations I have done where I went to the school and confronted the instructor.

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...ht=Jimmy+Lyons

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...ris+Valkenburg

    Not that these are the blueprint for these types of investigations but they may give you some ideas for how to approach it.

    Good luck.

    GJ

    Cheers man ill be sure to reply with my findings :D

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    If he's aussie, he would have never risen above being an agent as verses a paramilitary or case officer. The agency would not have wasted its time doing hand to hand training with him.

    I bet its really shitty, knock off world war two combatives. The system taught to the U.S. Office of Strategic Services was basically the same used by the British Commandos and is widely known today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Browning View Post
    If he's aussie, he would have never risen above being an agent as verses a paramilitary or case officer. The agency would not have wasted its time doing hand to hand training with him.

    I bet its really shitty, knock off world war two combatives. The system taught to the U.S. Office of Strategic Services was basically the same used by the British Commandos and is widely known today.


    If that i wouldnt be suprised if the guy just reads self defence books and has gotten away with that and now thinks he can teach BJJ with the same method....

    There are alot of Mcdojo's in this town....everything from Ninja Samurai to Kung Fu Ninja....I wouldnt mind defrauding all of them if given the chance because most people in Australia have NFI when it comes to martial arts.

    I really would not have had a problem with this guy nor have suspected him if he did not make his students sign a contract to keep the secrecy of his art....that really pissed me off.

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    Although nothing can really be said until more information is in, I wonder if the "secrecy" aspect on the contract is an attempt to prevent former students from speaking out against him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitz View Post
    Although nothing can really be said until more information is in, I wonder if the "secrecy" aspect on the contract is an attempt to prevent former students from speaking out against him.

    Thats what i suspect and that is why im not signing **** :P

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    There is no secrect CIA martial art. IF someone was Agency paramilitary I know exactly where they train. This post will self destruct in 5 seconds.
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    Well put, sir. :D

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