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  1. AMF is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel_tke
    LEO situations are not good situations for you to use pressure points. Lots of drunk people don't respond to pressure points. Also if you are doing certain drugs, you don't respond to pressure points.

    You do not want your life depending on whether or not someone is going to feel pain.

    Okay then, well I stand corrected and therefore maintain that kyusho is impractical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TxSanshou
    ultimately a techniques effectiveness comes
    down to the person using it
    You really need to justify this statement.

    Remember, any move you learn in any martial art was not passed down from god -- it was created by some guy at some point (or more likely multiple people independently), and then it was (hopefully) modified over time to improve its effectiveness.

    This is where training with aliveness comes in. What works well will be evident, and what is truly useless will also be apparent.

    Remember, useless isn't necessarily about 'zero' worth. It's more about opportunity cost. For instance, someone coudl argue that the gracie gift pass (as it is taught in rorion's instructionals) is useless. Their justification would not be that it's impossible to pass someone's guard with it, the justification is that there are simply far better ways to pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v1y
    You really need to justify this statement.

    Remember, any move you learn in any martial art was not passed down from god .
    Members of the Bujinkan would disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Wheel
    I'm a little puzzled by this comment. Sometimes both arms are required to block a power technique. The Thai roundhouse comes to mind.
    Get it out your mind.

    A thai roundhouse is generally blocked with one limb, leg or arm tight to the body, in older Thai they used two but they were usually applied above the knee as a means to get in close and counter attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gezere
    Get it out your mind.

    A thai roundhouse is generally blocked with one limb, leg or arm tight to the body, in older Thai they used two but they were usually applied above the knee as a means to get in close and counter attack.
    Just bolding that for emphasis. Blocking low/medium roundhouses with some kind of hand or arm block is a good way to get knocked out.
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    I remember a discussion I had with a kung-fu guy, where he said that a double leg takedown can be defended by grabbing both of the shooter's wrists and dropping to your back before up-kicking him in the face.

    A lot of impractical techniques are simply made up on the spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Moment View Post
    I remember a discussion I had with a kung-fu guy, where he said that a double leg takedown can be defended by grabbing both of the shooter's wrists and dropping to your back before up-kicking him in the face.

    A lot of impractical techniques are simply made up on the spot.
    You defend against a takedown by taking yourself down? Brilliant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel_tke View Post
    LEO situations are not good situations for you to use pressure points. Lots of drunk people don't respond to pressure points. Also if you are doing certain drugs, you don't respond to pressure points.

    You do not want your life depending on whether or not someone is going to feel pain.
    Well you're the cop, but I could imagine if you've got somebody who's being extremely un-cooperative, but not violent, a quick poke into the shoulder has got to be better than going upside their head.
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    2/16/2009 3:17pm


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    I don't know why you people have to hate on pressure point/aikido techniques. They work exceptionally well when I have to babysit my bratty niece and nephew.

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    If you surprise someone with an Aikido throw that **** works GREAT. Seriously, just walk up to someone and suddenly grab their wrist and whip them around in a circle and clothesline them. It works flawlessly, unless they are also an aikidoka.... then your wrist grabbery might backfire.
    But yeah, if your technique only works against smaller people who you ambush from the shadows, it's impractical.
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